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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188101: May 10th 2017 at 10:34:53 AM

[up] At this rate he's going to pull an Elvis and shoot every TV in the WH.

But then how would he get his daily fix of FOX News?

Disgusted, but not surprised
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188104: May 10th 2017 at 10:39:46 AM

[up][up] While he's at it, he'll probably have the FOX & Friends couch moved to the Oval Office with the friends chained to it.

edited 10th May '17 10:39:55 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#188105: May 10th 2017 at 10:40:57 AM

Realllllly hope this doesn't cause WW3.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#188107: May 10th 2017 at 10:44:01 AM

[up] All this talk of espionage and tensions with Russia has kinda got me worked and nervous and when I get nervous I assume the worst.

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#188108: May 10th 2017 at 10:44:07 AM

More importantly, how many more knee-jerk firings is Trump going to try in an attempt to quash this investigation? He may be luckier than Nixon with a sympathetic Congress, but it's slowly catching up to him.

edited 10th May '17 10:47:40 AM by TheRoguePenguin

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188109: May 10th 2017 at 10:44:42 AM

[up][up][up]Because our nutjob is provoking other nutjobs and getting himself angrier and more nutjobby in the doing?

edited 10th May '17 10:45:26 AM by sgamer82

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188110: May 10th 2017 at 10:45:26 AM

[up][up] All of Them. Eventually it'll be just him and his Android phone, tweeting away messages consisting of nothing but "SAD!" repeated over and over.

edited 10th May '17 10:46:48 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#188111: May 10th 2017 at 10:45:34 AM

A measure in the Senate to tear down certian Obama-era environmental regulations on methane emisions is defeated...by McCain voting against it. Lindsay Grahm and Susan Collins also voted against it; Mc Cain's vote was unexpected. Manchin and Hellickamp were also persuaded to vote against it after initially saying they might not. Mc Cain's reason isn't mentioned.

Re: Russia - I'm in the "something needs to be done" camp but going back to Cold War skuldugary is utterly the wrong way. There's no way it won't backfire hard on us and it cedes the moral high ground besides. Ideally the "something" is a multinational effort.

edited 10th May '17 10:51:13 AM by Elle

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188112: May 10th 2017 at 10:46:22 AM

Well, that's one segment of spine in the man, so due credit to him.

New from @PresVillain

THEY WILL BE THANKING ME!! #PresidentSupervillain

edited 10th May '17 10:49:02 AM by sgamer82

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#188113: May 10th 2017 at 10:49:12 AM

[up]x6 Yes, well, Trump and the Russian Foreign Minister just had a meeting a few hours ago and it supposedly went just hunkey-dorey, so I wouldn't be getting your fingers in a knot just yet.

[up]x4 Okay, but that doesn't really have anything to do with Comey getting fired, now does it?

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#188114: May 10th 2017 at 10:50:17 AM

Edit: Removed after clarification.

edited 10th May '17 10:59:01 AM by ViperMagnum357

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#188115: May 10th 2017 at 10:51:46 AM

On the Russia stuff, I'm no where near an expert so I hesitate to ask, but while I get the call to action some of you are making, the way Le Garcon is talking (and has talked about this for a while) kind of comes off as Red Scare level paranoia, and will likely do more harm than good.

And, yes, I'm aware the situations are very different from then, but that doesn't change public consciousness on the matter, and I can't say I entirely disagree with that.

edited 10th May '17 11:00:45 AM by LSBK

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#188116: May 10th 2017 at 10:55:14 AM

So Mc Cain has at least one vertebra... This is welcome news.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#188117: May 10th 2017 at 10:57:25 AM

Collins and Graham voted with Mc Cain, only their vote was expected and Mc Cain's was not. I corrected my post.

We can't expect their support on everything any more than we can expect it from the very-barely-Blue Dogs but it's something. As for the impact of the regulation, Methane is believed to be an even larger contributor to global warming than carbon dioxide.

The question remains how they'll come down when it comes to fighting the Drumpf administration.

edited 10th May '17 11:00:20 AM by Elle

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#188118: May 10th 2017 at 10:58:22 AM

[up]Ah...more in line with the expected.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#188119: May 10th 2017 at 11:07:32 AM

On the Russia stuff, I'm no where near an expert so I hesitate to ask, but while I get the call to action some of you are making, the way Le Garcon is talking (and has talked about this for a while) kind of comes off as Red Scare level paranoia, and will likely do more harm than good. And, yes, I'm aware the situations are very different from then, but that doesn't change public consciousness on the matter, and I can't say I entirely disagree with that.
It's not Paranoia in that the Russians are hostile to US interests and Democracy, so just laying down and allowing them to do what they want is foolish (which is what the GOP essentially wants). That's not paranoia, that's just supporting defense of one's national interests.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#188120: May 10th 2017 at 11:10:21 AM

I'm not sure if Garcon is completely right/if he's going too far, but Russia is clearly trying to spread far-right, anti-democratic and nationalist governments throughout the Western World using illegal methods. Something needs to be done to deter them.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#188121: May 10th 2017 at 11:11:44 AM

[up][up]That's why I said it comes off that way, and hurts his point. Well, that and I'm really not sure if what he's talking about goes to far. I never said don't do anything.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#188122: May 10th 2017 at 11:12:03 AM

[up][up]Yeah, the Russians are our rivals if not low level enemies. They need to be opposed and unfortunately the current administration is not going to do it in any real way.

[up]I know you didn't, that's why I specifically mentioned that it's the GOP that doesn't want us to do anything.

edited 10th May '17 11:12:59 AM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#188123: May 10th 2017 at 11:13:46 AM

What can be done is for people to VOTE. We don't need to move carrier groups in or stockpile nukes. The solution is right in front of us — we need to be united in rejecting the far-right with our ballot.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#188124: May 10th 2017 at 11:15:58 AM

[up]Of course, but it's not an either/or. Oppose the internal forces that would knowingly/unknowingly benefit Russia and support action to limit Russian influence internationally.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#188125: May 10th 2017 at 11:17:03 AM

What Crimson said.

I do not want to escalate tensions with Russia.

All it takes is an irrational actor.


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