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Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#187976: May 10th 2017 at 12:00:00 AM

Malia?


PS: A few pages ago someone commented on Trump's huge bigly fragile ego. I'd say Trump's ego is big enough to be its own planet.

PPS: Can't spell it "yuge" since that's how *I* pronounce it too.


[down]Thx.

edited 10th May '17 12:14:25 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#187977: May 10th 2017 at 12:00:42 AM
Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#187978: May 10th 2017 at 12:04:47 AM

Same guy that Sanders endorsed? lol, everything the guy touches turns to shit.

Yes, it's obviously Sanders' fault that Mello lost the mayoral race, not the voters'. I guess Osoff is doomed then and it'll probably also be Sanders' fault.

edited 10th May '17 3:57:06 AM by Grafite

Life is unfair...
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#187979: May 10th 2017 at 12:05:34 AM

[up][up][up][up]Trump OTOH seems to think he's Citizen Kane, while completely missing the point of the movie.

[up]It does seem to fit a pattern of Sanders endorsed candidates mostly not winning. While it's probably not Sanders' fault per se, it does kind of imply that Sanders endorsements aren't quite as helpful as his more ardent fans believe they are.

OTOH, Sanders outright dismissing Ossof as "not progressive" before going back and endorsing him could potentially hurt his chances. Depends on how seriously people in the district take Sanders' opinion on anything.

edited 10th May '17 12:08:53 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#187980: May 10th 2017 at 12:35:08 AM

I'm never one of the posters that posts articles on here, but I found one that I wanted to share.

A Conversation with a Former Republican Who Could Have Died without Obamacare

A condensed conversation with a woman who got a health insurance plan after being diagnosed with thyroid cancer. She got an insurance plan due to the Affordable Care Act. She also had to go on disability and food stamps.

You told me when we last spoke that your illness and experiences under the Affordable Care Act changed your politics. Are there people in your life whose views may have been changed after watching you go through that? Being sick and out of work, but still having the things you needed when you needed them?

This is a very, very, very red state. All very Republican, all very conservative. My own parents are conservative. They have been tremendously supportive of me, personally, in my situation. But even my father told me he was happy that the bill had passed. I asked him if he understood what it could mean if I lost my health coverage, and he said that he still felt it was the right move for the country.

surprised

Do not obey in advance.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#187981: May 10th 2017 at 12:42:59 AM

So this is the deputy attorney general's rationale for recommending Comey's firing. It was not (so much) because Comey reopened the email investigation 11 days before the election, but because of the press conference in July. So yeah, not (really) a reason that would inspire confidence.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#187982: May 10th 2017 at 12:47:10 AM

[up][up]Wow, that is disturbing.

"Yeah, I know losing the ACA might kill you, child of mine. But dammit, the country needs more tax cuts!"

Disgusted, but not surprised
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#187983: May 10th 2017 at 12:52:48 AM

The keyword there is "if." If she lost her health coverage. If her cancer returns.

But that won't happen, can't happen, to the people I care about!

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#187984: May 10th 2017 at 12:57:20 AM

[up] Until it does, upon which they act all bewildered and wonder why nobody warned them this might happen.

Disgusted, but not surprised
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#187985: May 10th 2017 at 1:02:25 AM

[up][up][up]IKR? sad

What is wrong with people anymore? I'm sick of trying to figure them out.

Do not obey in advance.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#187986: May 10th 2017 at 1:06:53 AM

Since Republican congressmen are refusing to meet with their constituents, Democrats next door are "adopting" the orphaned districts and hosting townhalls in place of the deadbeat Republicans.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#187987: May 10th 2017 at 1:07:16 AM

[up][up] Oddly enough...it might be optimism. The belief that everything will turn out fine if we just work hard enough and if we didn't have the government breathing down our necks.

Hence why a father is able to support a bill that might deprive his ill daughter of healthcare. He doesn't think it'll get that bad and the tax cuts would make everything better.

Summed up by Marco Rubio once claiming that America is not a country of "haves" and "have-nots", but rather a country of "haves" and "soon-to-haves".

It's the American Dream.

edited 10th May '17 1:08:03 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#187988: May 10th 2017 at 1:16:58 AM

[up]The big symptom isn't what Rubio said: It's how eager his crowd was to buy it.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#187989: May 10th 2017 at 1:18:22 AM

Or as Steinbeck apocryphally put it, millionaires and temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

And although I find that statement entirely applicable, the actual original quote is also revealing in a different way:

Except for the field organizers of strikes, who were pretty tough monkeys and devoted, most of the so-called Communists I met were middle-class, middle-aged people playing a game of dreams. I remember a woman in easy circumstances saying to another even more affluent: 'After the revolution even we will have more, won't we, dear?' Then there was another lover of proletarians who used to raise hell with Sunday picknickers on her property.

"I guess the trouble was that we didn't have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist. Maybe the Communists so closely questioned by the investigation committees were a danger to America, but the ones I knew—at least they claimed to be Communists—couldn't have disrupted a Sunday-school picnic. Besides they were too busy fighting among themselves."

("A Primer on the '30s." Esquire, June 1960: 85-93).

edited 10th May '17 1:19:25 AM by Eschaton

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#187990: May 10th 2017 at 1:18:31 AM

@Medinoc Yeah, that's the heart of the matter. It's bullshit...but it's bullshit way too many Americans want to believe, that we've been raised to believe over generations.

edited 10th May '17 1:21:44 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#187991: May 10th 2017 at 2:55:24 AM

Are you guys talking about a misguided optimism of the American dream?

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#187992: May 10th 2017 at 4:15:08 AM

Any "dream," insofar as it's a statement of nation character, that places the acquisition of material wealth over helping one's fellow man, will inevitably lead to a corrosive, anti-intellectual, and corrupt culture.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#187993: May 10th 2017 at 4:15:24 AM

Some local California news: Under-18 marriage ban weakened after ACLU opposes. "Rendered useless" is probably a more correct formulation - even when they require court orders and parental consent, child marriages have caused a variety of problems.

It'd make more sense if ACLU were to try to get the subpoint a) of this law removed. Most of the western world's anti-child sex laws (such as in Switzerland and if memory serves Canada) work fine without such a blanket clause that is an open invitation to abuse. The rest of that law may be a bit too liberal, but that is a trivial fix.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#187994: May 10th 2017 at 4:22:17 AM

Reporter arrested after repeatedly questioning Health secretary.

In a press conference held shortly after posting bail, Heyman said he asked Price repeatedly about whether domestic violence is considered a preexisting condition under the new GOP healthcare bill.

According to Heyman's account, he waited for Price to come into the building and then reached past those accompanying Price with his phone and repeatedly asked his healthcare questions, adding that a number of other reporters wanted to bring up the issue of preexisting conditions. He said capitol police at some point "decided I was just too persistent in asking this question and trying to do my job and so they arrested me."

He couldn't remember how many times he asked the question, he said, but he added that it is his job to ask questions, expressing disbelief that he was arrested.

"First time I've ever been arrested for asking a question. First time I've ever heard of someone getting arrested for asking a question," he said.

Heyman said he asked his questions in a public space and received no warnings that he was in the wrong place or doing other activities to warrant his arrest.

"No police officer told me 'you're in the wrong place,'" he said.

The police "put hands on me, although they didn't hurt me, certainly," he added.

Heyman asked them if he was under arrest, according to his version of events, and they said "yes." He also said he told the police he was a member of the press.

The police didn't immediately read him his Miranda Rights, he added, because they said were not asking him questions.

"It's dreadful. This is my job, this is what I'm supposed to do. I'm supposed to find out if someone is going to be affected by this healthcare law...I think it is a question that deserves to be answered," he added.

Heyman had to pay $5,000 bond and was charged with willful disruption of governmental processes, a misdemeanor.

How reassuring.

edited 10th May '17 4:23:36 AM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#187995: May 10th 2017 at 4:31:56 AM

[up] They must be really paranoid nihilists...

edited 10th May '17 4:32:12 AM by Luigisan98

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#187996: May 10th 2017 at 5:22:39 AM

Getting caught up and re: the Omaha mayoral race and one thing that caught my attention.

Stothert, a Republican in an officially nonpartisan seat, kept the focus on local governance issues as Mello tried to harness anger over President Donald Trump.

If accurate, it struck me utilizing Trump-hate would be potentially less effective the more local and far removed from the White House you get.

edited 10th May '17 5:22:52 AM by sgamer82

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#187997: May 10th 2017 at 5:34:34 AM

[up]Probably something on a race-by-race basis.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#187998: May 10th 2017 at 5:38:16 AM

...Mello was a moron. Most people would want a mayor who focuses on local stuff.

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#187999: May 10th 2017 at 5:58:05 AM

Trump criticizes outrage over Comey firing as partisan hypocrisy

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/nation-world/national/article149656689.html

Y'know, despite the fact that it's Trump, I'm not convinced he's entirely wrong on this one.

Also, since it was there:
Analysis: Donald Trump takes a dictator’s stand against inquiry

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/nation-world/article149632944.html

edited 10th May '17 5:59:16 AM by sgamer82

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#188000: May 10th 2017 at 6:02:04 AM

The problem with calling it "partisan hypocrisy" is twofold: 1) it's not a partisan issue, given that many Republicans are expressing concern as well as Democrats, and 2) it's not hypocritical to condemn Comey for his conduct during the election but still be alarmed at Trump firing him for a transparently false reason.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

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