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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#187851: May 9th 2017 at 4:01:01 PM

Yeah, don't everybody start celebrating. As noted, Sessions and Trump deciding unanimously to decapitate an organization investigating their relationship to a foreign power is not a good thing. Do not think of this as us beating Comey because we had nothing to do with it. Trump saw a threat to his power base and eradicated it. That it was something we also wanted is coincidental.

James Comey is gone, so what does that mean for the future?

  1. Trump gets to consolidate his power further.
  2. The Russian investigation is dead in the water. He will never be prosecuted.
  3. Hillary still doesn't get to be President.

Don't let yourselves be blinded by our desperation for a win right now. This is not what victory looks like. The last thing our party needs is a reputation for being really good at losing.

edited 9th May '17 4:02:21 PM by TobiasDrake

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#187852: May 9th 2017 at 4:01:50 PM

[up][up]in short:it is bad but he is the dear leader, we cant do a thing

edited 9th May '17 4:02:23 PM by unknowing

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#187853: May 9th 2017 at 4:02:19 PM

@ tclittle- A true maverick.

@Tobias- Yeah. I'm not going to torment myself by checking out alt-right (and perhaps also some far left) twitter, but I imagine there's posts about Trump hilariously frolling liberals by giving them exactly what they wanted in the worst way possible.

edited 9th May '17 4:04:10 PM by Hodor2

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#187854: May 9th 2017 at 4:02:25 PM

[up]x5 It's an even better idea if the Democrats (somehow, miraculously) get 51+ seats in the Senate. Then they can actually go through with it.

[up]x4 Then, honestly, I don't understand the point of giving term limits to the Director of the FBI, because Comey was bragging about how he was going to be here for 5 more years, only a few months ago.

No Agency Head should have a Term Limit; they should all be dependent on the President.

[up]x3 Again, if the FBI drops this investigation, I am almost certain the Democrats will automatically impeach Trump in 2019, no questions asked. And if the Blue Wave is as Big as the Red one was in 2010, hoo boy...

edited 9th May '17 4:04:18 PM by DingoWalley1

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#187855: May 9th 2017 at 4:05:06 PM

We really need some kind of independent body that investigates corruption in the Executive Branch. The President shouldn't have the ability to just shut down an investigation like this.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#187856: May 9th 2017 at 4:05:44 PM

[up][up]Impeachment requires a 2/3 majority in the Senate, and that is not going to happen in 2018 even if the Democrats hold every seat and take every GOP seat that is up. Not happening without Republican senators turning state's evidence or something so blatant happens it could be construed as treason, allowing the NSA to act.

edited 9th May '17 4:06:38 PM by ViperMagnum357

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#187857: May 9th 2017 at 4:06:36 PM

Dingo: The first director of the FBI amassed a dangerous amount of power which he abused during the decades he was at the head of the agency.

edited 9th May '17 4:07:16 PM by Parable

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#187858: May 9th 2017 at 4:09:16 PM

[up][up][up]The special prosecutor thing was just barely not ruled unconstitutional. it'd take an amendment to create an ombudsman or something. (Congress theoretically should do this but...well see exhibit A).
And the FBI is no substitute. See Hoover or the previous director—whatever his name was.

edited 9th May '17 4:11:59 PM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#187859: May 9th 2017 at 4:09:32 PM

Basically what we're likely stuck with Trump for the next 4 years and possibly 8 years if enough voter suppression laws are out in place.

FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#187860: May 9th 2017 at 4:11:32 PM

Assuming he doesn't die from something related to old age before then. He's in his 70s, remember.

edited 9th May '17 4:11:47 PM by FireCrawler2002

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#187861: May 9th 2017 at 4:15:10 PM

What a surprise. The narcissist was ungrateful. This is why you can't appease someone like that—they'll never have a sense of gratitude. It's like watching someone try to appease their abusive spouse.

The thing about it is that the Young Turks do not exactly have negative connotations in Turkey because of all the brainwashing and omission they do in Turkey especially in regards to the Armenian Genocide. The Young Turks are heroes to the Turkish population. If you look at the polls, only 9 % of Turkish people would label it a genocide and apologize for it.

And Hideki Tojo doesn't have the connotations in Japan that he should. What of it? That said your use of this to defend (?) Cenk still doesn't work because in Turkey the term Young Turk is not a colloquialism and is not used to refer to some nebulous group of reformers. It's used to refer to the specific triumvirate of Enver, Talaat, and Cemal, and the people who surrounded them. That they deny those men conducted the Armenian Genocide doesn't change the fact that it refers to them specifically.

In short—there is no version of reality where Cenk doesn't know who he is referring to, and he doesn't live in Turkey anymore. He's got access to all the information in the world about what they did, and any denial of the genocide/defending of them that he does is based not on being brainwashed but on ethnonationalism that he apparently doesn't care to let go of. For a guy who likes to talk about rationalism as much as he does he's remarkably irrational on the subject.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#187862: May 9th 2017 at 4:16:05 PM

[up][up]And he eats fast food 24/7. Old age plus clogged up arteries isn't exactly a recipe for healthy living.

edited 9th May '17 4:16:28 PM by kkhohoho

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#187863: May 9th 2017 at 4:16:21 PM

Damn, Trump, the man is the one reason you're POTUS and this is how you thank him?

Jokes aside, this is worrisome.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#187864: May 9th 2017 at 4:19:27 PM

Wonder if Corey will be a lot more open if Congress calls him up to testify again.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#187865: May 9th 2017 at 4:20:29 PM

@Ambar I refer you to Hodor's post on the subject.

I don't have much else to say. I don't really disagree with the stuff you said.

edited 9th May '17 4:22:38 PM by MadSkillz

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#187867: May 9th 2017 at 4:23:24 PM

I hope that means he has something ready to use against Trump.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#187868: May 9th 2017 at 4:23:25 PM

That makes it sound like he had some kind of dead man's switch. Hopefully his staffers have a plan of action for this.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#187869: May 9th 2017 at 4:24:15 PM

Probably promoting the Clinton Cash movie.

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#187870: May 9th 2017 at 4:28:59 PM

[up]x4 Well that first comment was fun...

edited 9th May '17 4:29:31 PM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#187871: May 9th 2017 at 4:30:07 PM

Wisconsin’s voter-ID law suppressed 200,000 votes in the 2016 election. Trump won by 22,748 votes. "A new study by Priorities USA shows that strict voter-ID laws, in Wisconsin and other states, led to a significant reduction in voter turnout in 2016, with a disproportionate impact on African-American and Democratic-leaning voters."

... RECOUNT! I FUCKING DEMAND A GOD-FUCKING-DAMN RECOUNT!

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#187872: May 9th 2017 at 4:32:59 PM

[up] A recount wouldn't change anything. The GOP's voter suppression tactics don't fudge the ballots, they prevent people from even getting to fill out ballots.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#187873: May 9th 2017 at 4:33:11 PM

A recount won't matter. If they were blocked from voting then the ballots aren't changing.

Ninja'd

edited 9th May '17 4:33:36 PM by Parable

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#187874: May 9th 2017 at 4:33:54 PM

Too late, Marq.

There are no retries in this America.

As the rest said, it's not the ballots. It's people being allowed to vote.

edited 9th May '17 4:35:09 PM by MadSkillz

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#187875: May 9th 2017 at 4:36:20 PM

I better not here any more both sides bullshit after today.

Y'all can get fucked.

New Survey coming this weekend!

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