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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
California just voted to have an earlier presidential primary.
Two measures passed by the Senate and the Assembly would both set California’s primary for the third Tuesday in March. Minor differences between the two bills mean legislators would have to reconcile the versions before they send it to Gov. Jerry Brown (D) for a signature.
No. Again, if this was the case, you'd have seen the same sort of reaction to Bill Clinton. They hated him to a truly deranged level, yet they were still willing to work with him on occasion. They were unwilling to work with Obama under any circumstance and those reasons were tied up with race, not partisanship.
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Realistically, if the GOP keeps up butchering their own public image and could affects most of the followers as well, then a blue wave may indeed happen if we take into account the previous presidency of Obama and the red waves.
edited 5th May '17 10:25:32 PM by Luigisan98
The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.I've been thinking, don't let this become normal. It's not.
still we can't just count on a blue wave. We need persuasion, and advocates who are willing to talk to people who they are going to disagree with, even if it might lead to some uncomfortable conversations.
edited 5th May '17 10:34:06 PM by megaeliz
Btw, the California presidential primary was in June before. We moved 3 months up and I think we should end up as the 15 th state to have its primary which could mean the GOP candidate might have to act more moderate.
Valid but the GOP of the 90's was less partisan than the GOP of the 2000's and 10's.
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l really found this quote on the nature of progress and prejudice to be a useful way to conceptualize why the backlash against Obama was so strong.
You know what, I'm done trying to imbed this, so here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X1hf35iFekg
edited 5th May '17 10:59:56 PM by megaeliz
Keith Olberman can be a bit, uh, well you know, but I got goosebumps from this:
(Since I can't embed for some reason: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAChqYKslGs
edited 5th May '17 11:24:30 PM by megaeliz
As I keep saying, we need to run persuasion and issue advocacy campaigns. And we do that by finding common ground, and shared values and going from there. It's harder to demonize the person who you had dinner at there house and actually talked to them. This is how we rebuild our democracy, this is how we start bridging the divide that gave us Trump. It may be uncomfortable, it may not be glamorous, but it is vital to a healthy democracy.
If anyone is interested in this at all please watch this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QdnxwV6896M
edited 5th May '17 11:39:31 PM by megaeliz
That's up to the moderate conservatives who are fed up with the GOP's antics.
And compleatly random, but just a saw an add for Ossoff.
yeah, most of the actual moderates are probably going be democratic this time anyway. My dad used to vote Republican until they got too nuts for him. He's a bit more on the fiscally conservative, socially liberal end of the spectrum, if you know what I mean. (We live in a state where even the republicans tend to be more liberal)
edited 5th May '17 11:52:29 PM by megaeliz

So, in the event that, pass or fail (though hopefully fail, obviously) this healthcare disaster does bring about a "blue wave" next year, what do you realistically think/hope could come from it?
edited 5th May '17 10:18:05 PM by LSBK