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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Only if they vote democrat.
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It's not a real party without Huckabee
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CW: That is his actual tweet.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotMy position on the issue of Trump voters and why people would vote for him is that yes there were a lot of factors behind it, and none of them speak too favorably of the people involved in various ways, but I think the crux of what's being argued is that even if you didn't mean to or you didn't know any better you are still responsible for actions that have had terrible consequences.
We can also acknowledge that without necessarily saying that Trump voters are "evil", which isn't a word I would have used anyway since that's obviously loaded. Mostly I think they're just ignorant, have bad priorities, and in some cases yes were malicious even if they weren't conscious of it.
Interesting thing about the Montana governor (Steve Bullock) is that he's one of the politicians that people are speculating could be a candidate in 2020, but I don't think he's said anything about it either way at this point.
And yeah Capsase isn't wrong in saying that there are probably a lot of low-information voters that might be swayed if you put in enough effort. I mean, it would be one thing to simply SAY that, but Bullock did manage to get elected multiple times and is fairly popular in Montana, so I'm more inclined to trust that he's correct.
edited 5th May '17 12:08:57 PM by Draghinazzo
This is a good opinion piece by the Washington Post
that does a great job of articulating what I've been saying for more than a year: namely, that the Democrats need to move further to the left if they hope to have any chance of winning future elections.
edited 5th May '17 1:02:08 PM by Zennistrad
Apparently Trump thinks every other country in the world has better healthcare than the US: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/332128-trump-everybody-has-better-healthcare-than-us
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Sounding more left seems to be the case. Or more accurately, more radio-friendly soundbites than now.
Because if Trump actually had something more substantial than "I will bring jobs back somehow", I certainly wasn't in the room for it.
Oh, and, um, yeah, because I see no way that won't backfire in West Virginia. The last thoughtpiece I read about people there basically had the unintended takeaway of "no matter how left Democrats in mining areas are, the WWC won't vote for them because it means admitting that people who aren't the WWC are people".
edited 5th May '17 1:07:23 PM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotWhat's happening now? I got lost.
All I do remember that Trump did add acne to his healthcare bill, so if I'm right on how this bill works- reporting for acne loses your health insurance. But who doesn't have acne?
Besides: Does the bill goes against a point of the Amendment?
edited 5th May '17 1:07:06 PM by Raddishes
I'm doubtful they could do any worse at it than they have previously. Even when they had a majority in congress, they couldn't even bother to do the right thing when it benefited them politically.
With a majority in congress, the Democrats could have, in no particular order:
- Granted the District of Columbia statehood.
- Implemented a single-payer healthcare system.
- Rebuilt crumbling infrastructure.
- Taken redistricting responsibilities for congressional districts out of lawmakers' hands
But they won't do this as long as their institutional culture remains the way it is because it prioritizes "moderation" and appeasing corporate donors over getting anything done.
edited 5th May '17 1:11:37 PM by Zennistrad
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Do you get a membership card for spouting that line or something?
Although it does get seriously weird that suggesting that Trump voters have responsibility for policies enacted, regardless of intent, is apparently a major sin while outright claiming that moderates and (((corporate interests))) are inherently evil regardless of what they're actually doing is perfectly normal.
There was that one time, then poor midterm turnouts and voter backlash from the ACA happened.
Speaking of that, there actually was a period where there was 60 votes for single payer
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edited 5th May '17 1:22:41 PM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot![]()
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Delusion of grandeur, tax cut for the riches, and probably trying to erase a black guy's accomplishment.
edited 5th May '17 1:33:32 PM by RAlexa21th
Continue writing our story of peace.
