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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#187101: May 4th 2017 at 8:03:50 PM

There are always other important things to vote on, even if just local elections and initiatives.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#187102: May 4th 2017 at 8:04:49 PM

I'll be voting too...but since I'm registered in California in a blue district...
And since I'm registered in Georgia my vote also means jack and shit. Though I suppose it's the principal of the thing that matters.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#187103: May 4th 2017 at 8:07:17 PM

[up]If the current polls for Ossof are anything to go by, that may not be true much longer-a serious uphill struggle, but no longer guaranteed to be the futile enterprise it was over the last couple of decades.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#187104: May 4th 2017 at 8:07:29 PM

[up][up] Unless Olssof gets in.

Your vote does mean something to both you and the nation, don't let apathy take the best of you.

edited 4th May '17 8:07:47 PM by Luigisan98

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#187105: May 4th 2017 at 8:09:21 PM

Yeah, voter apathy is partially the reason why we're in this mess right now.

edited 4th May '17 8:09:44 PM by BearyScary

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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#187106: May 4th 2017 at 8:10:37 PM

[up] I agree.

This is why I think Mandatory Voting needs to be established in the US (as a form of Bi-Yearly Tax for those that don't do it in National Elections); Voter Apathy is too great in this country, and it's skews the Country too much to the Right.

[down] I agree with that as well, but Mandatory Voting would help more so. It'd also help organizations that help people register to vote, by giving them more people to help register.

edited 4th May '17 8:13:35 PM by DingoWalley1

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#187107: May 4th 2017 at 8:11:45 PM

More laws that give people more and easier opportunities to register to vote help, too.

Do not obey in advance.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#187108: May 4th 2017 at 8:11:49 PM

[up][up][up][up][up],[up][up][up][up] good point.

[up]I doubt you meant me but I have to underscore that I'm not being apathetic, that would be not voting at-all. But it's a fact that for the most part I'm a single drop of blue in an ocean of red.

edited 4th May '17 8:12:32 PM by Fourthspartan56

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#187109: May 4th 2017 at 8:12:13 PM

As Swanpride has mentioned before on other threads: "If you don't vote, you vote for the right."

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#187110: May 4th 2017 at 8:13:26 PM

[up][up] What is a red ocean, but a multitude of upcoming blue drops?

edited 4th May '17 8:13:37 PM by Luigisan98

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#187111: May 4th 2017 at 8:14:39 PM

I very much doubt you'd find much support for mandatory voting in this country. Probably along free speech grounds; freedom to express yourself also means freedom to not do it.

What we really need is to move voting to a time that's much more convenient for modern day schedules, and then declare it a holiday. (And possibly write in a law that makes it illegal to punish someone for taking off work to go vote, because a lot of people are simply afraid to take any time off at all.)

And also automatic registration on your eighteenth birthday. Registration booths placed in high schools and colleges for the students. Student ID standing in as a legal ID just the same as fucking gun licenses.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#187112: May 4th 2017 at 8:17:03 PM

@ fourthspartan: Sorry, I did not mean to single anyone out. I realize that I came across too harsh. >.>

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#187113: May 4th 2017 at 8:17:59 PM

[up][up] No one is saying that the person couldn't give either a blank ballot, or a ballot filled with Mickey Mouse's and Harambe's. I just think it's absolutely important that 95-99% of the Population vote so that actual representatives of the People, not just the voting People, are picked. Plus, just like Obamacare, I'm sure people would come around to it, especially since people would only ever have to fear the Tax every 2 years.

I do agree that we should make Election day a National Holiday that no one has to work or go to school on, though.

edited 4th May '17 8:18:18 PM by DingoWalley1

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#187114: May 4th 2017 at 8:18:49 PM

[up][up][up][up]That's... a very nice sentiment. But I am not confident or convinced that Georgia will turn blue or purple anytime soon. I would love if it could but I'm not counting on it and neither should anyone else.

[up][up] Oh no I didn't feel that you were attacking anyone, I just wanted to make my position clear smile

edited 4th May '17 8:19:03 PM by Fourthspartan56

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#187115: May 4th 2017 at 8:19:51 PM

[up] The whole state, no. But even one or two districts would help.

Gotta start somewhere.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#187116: May 4th 2017 at 8:21:45 PM

Re-enfranchising felonies would be pretty good too. Both in practical terms for Democrats, and just in a spirit-of-democracy way.

Do that and a lot of Southern states would probably become more competitive. Which is probably the main reason it won't happen, but, it's something to fight for.

I think the governor of Viriginia tried to move towards that but I don't remember how it went.

edited 4th May '17 8:23:44 PM by LSBK

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#187117: May 4th 2017 at 8:22:02 PM

[up][up]Definitely, incremental change is the only real way that change is ever coming to the South.

[up][tup]

edited 4th May '17 8:22:21 PM by Fourthspartan56

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#187118: May 4th 2017 at 8:27:48 PM

[up][up][up][up] Even so, for every small step, can come with a huge leap for the unknown tomorrow.

After all, each now and then, there's always the time where evil can show up to the world and tries to fuck it up at every inch of it, but time and time again, they failed to achieve all of their goals and submit Humanity to their doctrine. The current focused evil is Trump and his croonies and as times shown, they won't totally succeed as well.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#187119: May 4th 2017 at 8:32:25 PM

Even so, for every small step, can come with a huge leap for the unknown tomorrow.
Sure.

After all, each now and then, there's always the time where evil can show up to the world and tries to fuck it up at every inch of it, but time and time again, they failed to achieve all of their goals and submit Humanity to their doctrine. The current focused evil is Trump and his croonies and as times shown, they won't totally succeed as well.
I guess so? Human history is one of slavery, genocide, imperialism, and suffering so I'm not confident of the idea that evil is something that fails very often.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#187120: May 4th 2017 at 8:38:04 PM

Jimmy Fallon showed a clip where a reporter asked numerous House members if they've even read the health care bill. They ALL walked right past him without answering the question.

Un-be-fucking-lievable.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#187121: May 4th 2017 at 8:38:13 PM

[up][up] So it's also one of evolving freedom, compassion, independence and kindness if you look deeper into it. As far as I'm concerned, they're many people talking about on how ugly or beautiful the world is from the perspective of obnoxious cynics and naive optimists.= respectively.

Me and others on the other hand? Believe in both and respect both and know their existence, but always trying to not get stuck with each other for too long...you should know the beauty side more often than ever man, it's nothing less or even more of the ugly side as well.

[up] So that means that either they were too ignorant to know of the consequences because they want to make their own bill regardless, or are just to eagerly misanthropic and nihilistically expecting on how their opponents will die anyway is the only answer they want?

edited 4th May '17 8:41:29 PM by Luigisan98

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#187122: May 4th 2017 at 8:42:55 PM

So how long until comparing the GOP to Nazis is an insult to fucking Nazis?

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#187123: May 4th 2017 at 8:44:08 PM

[up] The GOP is not committing genocide at the moment. Or maybe do you reefer in their ideology?

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#187124: May 4th 2017 at 8:45:20 PM

The GOP hasn't started up concentration camps yet.

Ted Cruz I think has pointed out that it was the democrats who have the history of that and not the GOP, and sadly he's not wrong about that although it's wilfully ignorant of the circumstances and basically everything the parties have done and become since then.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#187125: May 4th 2017 at 8:51:03 PM

I'm not surprised the GOP Reps didn't read the bill before voting on it. Trump apparently didn't read it either.

[down]That said, while I don't think all of the Democratic Party Reps read through the whole thing either, I do still think they at least read up on the horrible downsides and loopholes and didn't just vote against it for the purpose of obstruction.

edited 4th May '17 8:53:29 PM by M84

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