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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#186976: May 4th 2017 at 2:29:15 PM

@LSBK: I wouldn't say it's an unreasonable assumption. With the failure of the two Muslim bans and the first AHCA draft, I feel like we've been getting really lucky lately. Eventually, something horrible has to happen to balance it out. That something is probably gonna be this bill passing the Senate.

i'm tired, my friend
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#186977: May 4th 2017 at 2:30:23 PM

[up][up][up][up]No, but the what-if of medical tourisim is an interesting tangent.

edited 4th May '17 2:30:50 PM by Elle

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#186978: May 4th 2017 at 2:31:00 PM

I'm half convinced that Trump's Obama-era twitter account was actually hijacked by a Trump from an alternate dimension trying to warn us of his evil twin. He didn't get his calculations quite right and his tweets landed a few years short of their intended mark.

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#186979: May 4th 2017 at 2:33:53 PM

To ironballs:

Sexual assault was a pre-existing condition before Obamacare.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/trumpcare-could-make-sexual-assault-a-pre-existing-condition-again-depending-on-where-you-live/

Pre-Obamacare, different places and insurance companies each have their own definitions of pre-existing condition, but since Obamacare banned denying insurance based on those conditions, it didn't mattered. With Trumpcare, it's the wild west of define your own conditions again.

edited 4th May '17 2:36:36 PM by nightwyrm_zero

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#186980: May 4th 2017 at 2:34:23 PM

[up][up][up]That's not particularly rational though process. It just seems like trying to make things even more anxious than they already are.

edited 4th May '17 2:34:49 PM by LSBK

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#186981: May 4th 2017 at 2:35:36 PM

[up]

That part I was aware of, but as I said, there's a major distinction in regards to motivation between "Let's roll back all of what Obama had done" (spite) and "Let's explicitly label rape, pregnancy, and domestic violence as pre-existing conditions" (For the Evulz), and the way people were talking about it on the previous page, it was coming across more as the latter.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#186982: May 4th 2017 at 2:37:59 PM

The GOP Senate won't vote on the House-passed healthcare bill. Instead, they will write their own legislature. It will attempt to incorporate elements of the House bill, but will not take up the House bill as a starting point and change it through the amendment process: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/senate-wont-vote-on-house-passed-healthcare-bill/article/2622152

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#186983: May 4th 2017 at 2:38:10 PM

@Ironball - I'm still looking but here's discussion of the pre-existing condition issue in general - haven't found specifically what you're looking for yet.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#186984: May 4th 2017 at 2:40:36 PM

[up][up] Thank God, if True.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#186985: May 4th 2017 at 2:41:51 PM

[up][up]

For reference, 186914 and 186915 on page 7477 were the posts I was inquiring about, as 186914 said that they'd made pregnancy a pre-existing condition.

edited 4th May '17 2:44:38 PM by ironballs16

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#186986: May 4th 2017 at 2:47:36 PM

So when can we expect they'd be done writing up the amendment?

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#186987: May 4th 2017 at 2:51:42 PM

A list of preexisting conditions under the GOP bill, from senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SenSherrodBrown/status/860121515018379264

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#186988: May 4th 2017 at 2:52:25 PM

So they may write some of the base BS out of it?

Do not obey in advance.
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#186989: May 4th 2017 at 2:56:02 PM

They'll probably cut a couple of shitty things out of it and send it to the House in order to approve it.

Or meet at some awful middle ground.

edited 4th May '17 2:56:20 PM by MadSkillz

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#186991: May 4th 2017 at 2:58:40 PM

Republicans want everyone to die. Poor people, brown people, children, women, disabled people...everyone.

RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#186992: May 4th 2017 at 2:59:13 PM

Except WASP

Though they may want to keep women around as trophies.

edited 4th May '17 2:59:38 PM by RAlexa21th

Continue writing our story of peace.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#186993: May 4th 2017 at 3:04:46 PM

Well, if this is like before, any changes made in the Senate will make those in the House through it out. Hopefully, it'll continue like that until it's not longer an option for them.

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#186994: May 4th 2017 at 3:17:04 PM

I figured they'd just try to ram it through the house again.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#186995: May 4th 2017 at 3:27:32 PM

(Some) pre-existing conditions under Trump(don't)care

AIDS/HIV, acid reflux, acne, ADD, addiction, Alzheimer's/dementia, anemia, aneurysm, angioplasty, anorexia, anxiety, arrhythmia, arthritis, asthma, atrial fibrillation, autism, bariatric surgery, basal cell carcinoma, bipolar disorder, blood clot, breast cancer, bulimia, bypass surgery, celiac disease, cerebral aneurysm, cerebral embolism, cerebral palsy, cerebral thrombosis, cervical cancer, colon cancer, colon polyps, congestive heart failure, COPD, Crohn's disease, cystic fibrosis, DMD, depression, diabetes, disabilities, Down syndrome, eating disorder, enlarged prostate, epilepsy, glaucoma, gout, heart disease, heart murmur, heartburn, hemophilia, hepatitis C, herpes, high cholesterol, hypertension, hysterectomy, kidney disease, kidney stones, kidney transplant, leukemia, lung cancer, lupus, lymphoma, mental health issues, migraines, MS, muscular dystrophy, narcolepsy, nasal polyps, obesity, OCD, organ transplant, osteoporosis, pacemaker, panic disorder, paralysis, paraplegia, Parkinson's disease, pregnancy, restless leg syndrome, schizophrenia, seasonal affective disorder, seizures, sickle cell disease, skin cancer, sleep apnea, sleep disorders, stent, stroke, thyroid issues, tooth disease, tuberculosis...

Guess I'm out, as I am Autistic, and have ADHD and anxiety.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SenSherrodBrown/status/860121515018379264

edited 4th May '17 3:30:08 PM by megaeliz

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#186996: May 4th 2017 at 3:32:16 PM

[up] I like that they include the catch all "Disabilities" in there, just in case people don't have any of the actual Pre-Existing Conditions that are listed there.

Seriously, the AHCA can go die.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#186997: May 4th 2017 at 3:34:17 PM

Seasonal affective disorder? I know someone who has that. It mostly just makes her feel like crap when it's dark out in the winter. She has a sun-lamp in her room that helps her a lot with it. It's not exactly a medication-heavy ailment. (At least for her, I don't know what it's like for other people.)

edited 4th May '17 3:35:07 PM by Zendervai

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#186998: May 4th 2017 at 3:34:45 PM

[up]x3 So basically, anything and everything.

The solution's simple, people: Just don't get sick! And don't be born with anything! What's so hard about that?

edited 4th May '17 3:34:51 PM by speedyboris

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#186999: May 4th 2017 at 3:35:34 PM

I have ADHD and used to have an eating disorder too. I'm out as well.

edited 4th May '17 3:35:47 PM by MadSkillz

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#187000: May 4th 2017 at 3:36:18 PM

They're becoming the Biblical Pharisees in all but name. "Oh, you've had an illness since birth? Well, your parents must have committed a whopper of a sin."

And thus the so-called "pro-life" party inches ever closer to "how dare you be born" territory.

edited 4th May '17 3:37:18 PM by Zendervai


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