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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#186926: May 4th 2017 at 1:12:59 PM

For now. It's likely the GOP will keep pushing versions of the bill until people get exhausted and it goes through.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#186927: May 4th 2017 at 1:15:02 PM

I don't see this getting to the point were mere persistence will whittle down actual complaints about something horrible.

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#186929: May 4th 2017 at 1:17:47 PM

It's definitely over-optimistic, but I still love the Dems for it. Given how little power we hold in Washington right now, I just love that the Democrat S.O.P. right now is to just troll the shit out of Republicans.

If we're funny enough, it might actually help our chances of winning seats in 2018. If we learn nothing else from 2016, we should take away the unfortunate truth that memes mean more than facts now.

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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#186930: May 4th 2017 at 1:19:12 PM

And I'd argue that none of those categories even really matter. What does matter is very simple: Do you have money?

This country's leadership wants to define "normal" as Rich, White, Christian, Straightnote , and Male - in that order. There are nuances to each of those categories, but they all get smoothed over by enough cash... to an extent. Which we will no doubt see the limits of, more and more.

I can't agree with this in its entirety. If money is the thing they care about most, then logically the Republicans would care more about the opinions of rich and middle class African-Americans than the opinions of angry, poor whites. This is demonstrably not the case. While they certainly have no interest in actually helping poor whites, they're more than happy to enlist their anger at minorities to keep said minorities, even the already wealthy ones, from succeeding. I also definitely don't concur that they like black men more than they like white women, which your "in that order" comment would also imply—if anything they're still in that 1860s mentality of having to protect white women from black men.

I'd say its more fluid. Certainly the closer you are to being all of the above (rich, white, straight, male, and Christian) the more they'll like you, but I wouldn't say that wealth trumps race or race trumps sexism.

edited 4th May '17 1:21:20 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#186931: May 4th 2017 at 1:21:31 PM

[up] wealth trumps race. Well trump is both rich and orange...tongue

edited 4th May '17 1:22:30 PM by megaeliz

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#186932: May 4th 2017 at 1:21:45 PM

I'd say Obama is walking proof that wealth does not trump race. The Republicans have never forgiven him for being a wealthy, influential black man.

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#186933: May 4th 2017 at 1:23:06 PM

[up]Eh, maybe if he was a Republican...if he was their wealthy influential black man.

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#186934: May 4th 2017 at 1:24:18 PM

@Dingo: Thanks. Portman's my Senator, incidentally. If I call him, what should I say to him?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#186935: May 4th 2017 at 1:24:31 PM

I mean, it's fine as long as you don't ever actually question them on anything. Which is probably why Black and otherwise not so white Republicans tend to be on the more extreme side of things.

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#186936: May 4th 2017 at 1:24:45 PM

Then he'd be expected to be Ben Carson. He could stand behind Trump, smile, and pretend like he knows what he's doing, but not actually step on any white men's toes.

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#186937: May 4th 2017 at 1:26:51 PM

Maybe not so white Republicans need to one-up white white supremacists in order to make a career. Or conversely, only these not so white Republicans can make a career.

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#186938: May 4th 2017 at 1:27:15 PM

[up][up][up][up] Tell him you're proud of him for standing against the AHCA, you stand by him not supporting the AHCA, and that you will not approve of him if he votes for it. That's what I'd say to my Senators.

edited 4th May '17 1:27:46 PM by DingoWalley1

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#186940: May 4th 2017 at 1:34:32 PM

Well that's just crass. And to think, if it was the Democrats doing this the Republicans would be crying foul over the whole issu.

I hope they all go to town halls and get booed at next week.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#186941: May 4th 2017 at 1:35:51 PM

Ew. "Yay, we passed a bill that punishes pregnancy and victimized women! Let's party!"

Seriously, I can't get past that. I hope the food is tainted and they all get non-lethal but extremely unpleasant food poisoning.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#186942: May 4th 2017 at 1:36:58 PM

I don't know why Trump would celebrate, even if this manages to "replace" it's not by any measure better, and that was his whole deal.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#186943: May 4th 2017 at 1:38:32 PM

No his whole deal was winning. Granted, he hasn't done that either, but I don't think he understands how government works enough to know that.

edited 4th May '17 1:39:16 PM by sgamer82

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#186944: May 4th 2017 at 1:38:53 PM

Its better because its signed by Trump.

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#186945: May 4th 2017 at 1:39:46 PM

Do you really think Trump cares or even knows about the substance of it? All that matters is that he Does A Thing.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#186946: May 4th 2017 at 1:40:33 PM

[up][up][up]But if most people don't think it's better, then he hasn't actually won.

[up]We already know he doesn't, but he clearly cares about public opinion.

edited 4th May '17 1:41:06 PM by LSBK

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#186947: May 4th 2017 at 1:41:53 PM

As long as he gets to undo one of Obama's major accomplishments, he'll delude himself into thinking people like it.

edited 4th May '17 1:42:33 PM by Perseus

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#186948: May 4th 2017 at 1:42:23 PM

Anyone who says he didn't win is perpetuating Fake News

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#186949: May 4th 2017 at 1:42:47 PM

But, of course, he hasn't actually Done A Thing, because the senate's probably going to kill this version. He just got halfway to having Done A Thing.

edited 4th May '17 1:42:56 PM by Gilphon

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#186950: May 4th 2017 at 1:45:06 PM

It's the pretty typical "president gets both the credit and the blame for everything" because he's on the top, only because it's Trump he actually believes he deserves all that credit right now. Plus, given that he admits to not understanding how hard the job would be, he might not comprehend that this thing has to pass through both houses of the Congress and that the job's not actually done yet.


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