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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#186901: May 4th 2017 at 12:42:37 PM

[up][up][up] They crossed a line with their votes today.

edited 4th May '17 12:42:47 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#186902: May 4th 2017 at 12:43:33 PM

[up]x6 Anyone with a republican senator better be calling their reps, no excuses. I'll be affected by this and if and when I die anyone in this thread who said "it's useless, my rep is firmly republican" will be haunted by my Zombie goast for all eternity.

edited 4th May '17 12:44:01 PM by fruitpork

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#186903: May 4th 2017 at 12:43:54 PM

[up][up][up]I know it would never happen, but I would LOVE to see the Republican reaction if they loss nationwide to the point where the Democrats could amend the Constitution practically unilaterally unopposed.

edited 4th May '17 12:44:06 PM by TacticalFox88

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#186904: May 4th 2017 at 12:43:56 PM

[up][up][up][up] I'm hoping, not being naively optimistic. Just hoping, that's all.

edited 4th May '17 12:44:21 PM by Luigisan98

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#186905: May 4th 2017 at 12:44:31 PM

Honestly, there was a chance that the GOP might have to take a long, hard look in the mirror, realize how far they'd fallen to arrive at this ungodly point, and reflect.

That chance went out the window on the morning of November 9th, 2016. The GOP went to bed with the worst, most atrocious parts of themselves and it paid off bigger than human decency ever has. They're beyond saving now.

edited 4th May '17 12:45:05 PM by TobiasDrake

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#186907: May 4th 2017 at 12:46:40 PM

BTW, the House GOP reps aren't just drinking to celebrate, they're breaking out into fucking song.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#186908: May 4th 2017 at 12:46:55 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up] As long as goodness and luck exists with you, you'll survive. Regardless of all odds of what can happen, never think you should die, you deserve to live.

I'm not being insensitive, I'm just giving reassurance and hope to you instead of thinking about death immediately. Things are not OK but it's not over yet.

edited 4th May '17 12:47:27 PM by Luigisan98

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#186909: May 4th 2017 at 12:47:37 PM

Question: Which GOP senators have come out against the bill?

Oh God! Natural light!
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#186910: May 4th 2017 at 12:48:06 PM

[up][up][up][up] Don't try...

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#186911: May 4th 2017 at 12:48:57 PM

@M84: I swear, they're ****ing Disney villains at this point. Unfortunately, this narrative doesn't work on Disney rules and therefore the villains can win.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
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#186912: May 4th 2017 at 12:49:02 PM

I'll certainly survive. I'm a poorly-educated cis-gendered heterosexual white male. I belong to that precious WWC that radical leftists won't shut up about. I am in no danger whatsoever.

It's everyone else, I'm worried about.

EDIT: Oh, your arrows were off. That makes more sense.

edited 4th May '17 12:49:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#186913: May 4th 2017 at 12:50:37 PM

[up][up] But so can good guys.

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Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#186914: May 4th 2017 at 12:54:01 PM

The representatives that voted for this law are all murderers, plain and simple. That said, it could bite them if they hit one of the "second amendments guys" they court so much, who decides to avenge his own murder...

edited 4th May '17 12:54:18 PM by Medinoc

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#186915: May 4th 2017 at 12:56:20 PM

[up] only white republican men are allowed to have second amendment rights—all the rest are fudds, apparently.

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#186916: May 4th 2017 at 12:58:37 PM

[up][up] If only. Most of the hardcore gun fanatics will line up nice and quietly for their own slaughter-by-GOP, like good little lambs. They'll even drag the rest of us kicking and screaming to share in the doom.

To them, the only government worth overthrowing in violent revolution is a Democrat-run one, regardless of its merits.

edited 4th May '17 12:59:51 PM by TrashJack

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#186917: May 4th 2017 at 1:02:08 PM

Honestly, the fact that all gun-owners are proud to line up on the side of despotism and volunteer to keep the common folk in line is probably the greatest argument against the Second Amendment that has ever existed in our country. It, like the Electoral College, has thoroughly failed its intent.

Thomas Jefferson gets to kindly shut the f*ck up about that "Tree of Liberty" nonsense now.

edited 4th May '17 1:03:25 PM by TobiasDrake

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#186918: May 4th 2017 at 1:03:19 PM

@Luigi-san: If ever the Republican party did purge their negative elements, it would likely be done by ones who are not currently in power, or even old enough to be party members. In other words, it'll take years, and a lot of what people are pointing out to you is that they don't have that kind of time. You're sounding a bit like a broken record now, which is, yes, just a bit insensitive. I'm not a fan of the obsessive negativity this thread falls into myself (especially since it falls into demonizing people and saying they deserve to suffer when that happens) but repeatedly saying "have hope" without adding anything else to the conversation is not as reassuring as you think it is.

As for the actual topic: BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Eh. I had the news on and ended up changing the channel because I couldn't stand the sound of their voices anymore. I hate that this is going to the Senate.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#186919: May 4th 2017 at 1:05:29 PM

[up] The house you mean. And I apologize...

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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#186920: May 4th 2017 at 1:06:07 PM

KarkatTheDalek: Question: Which GOP senators have come out against the bill?

According to this article from VOX: Mike Lee (Utah), Rand Paul (Kentucky), Dean Heller (Nevada), Shelley Moore Capito (West Virginia). That's 4 Republicans. I'm also hearing that Rob Portman (Ohio) is also against it, which would be 5. Bill Cassidy (Louisiana), Lindsey Graham (South Carolina), Susan Collins (Maine) and Jeff Flake (Arizona) are voicing their concerns and doubts about the bill. I might be missing some more.

Things look good, for now, that the AHCA can't pass in the Senate. They are certainly not going to pass it before the CBO gets it's scoring out.

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#186921: May 4th 2017 at 1:07:20 PM

I'll certainly survive. I'm a poorly-educated cis-gendered heterosexual white male. I belong to that precious WWC that radical leftists won't shut up about. I am in no danger whatsoever.
Doesn't matter if they keep talking about, if they're not in a position to do something about it. And now we all know where most Republicans stand when it comes to helping people, including their own constituents.

And I'd argue that none of those categories even really matter. What does matter is very simple: Do you have money?

This country's leadership wants to define "normal" as Rich, White, Christian, Straightnote , and Male - in that order. There are nuances to each of those categories, but they all get smoothed over by enough cash... to an extent. Which we will no doubt see the limits of, more and more.

edited 4th May '17 1:07:53 PM by Eschaton

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#186922: May 4th 2017 at 1:07:49 PM

As someone else pointed out, there's already Senate Republicans openly opposing the AHCA from the House, namely one from Ohio and one from Nevada.

And incidentally, it was the Democrats singing after the AHCA passed - the song in question, though, was "nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, goodbye", since they figure that the majority of those that voted for this abomination will be losing their seat in 2018. Of course, there's a solid argument to be made that this is overly-optimistic, given what happened in 2013 (gov't shutdown) and the following election.

edited 4th May '17 1:19:38 PM by ironballs16

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#186923: May 4th 2017 at 1:09:28 PM

No, Luigi, I mean the Senate. It was voted on in the House, now it's going to the Senate. How was it not obvious that's what I meant?

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#186924: May 4th 2017 at 1:10:29 PM

[up] Oh...

But look what the guys say, the Senate will be safe from it...

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#186925: May 4th 2017 at 1:12:11 PM

[up][up][up] Heh, well that makes me feel a bit better. Though I agree it's a tad optimistic.

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