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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I don't think any of you should worry about your temperament. The USA just elected a gibbering gibbon as president, despite his many personality flaws. All you actually have to do is find a way to make your quirks "funny". I watched a video recently that argued, fairly successfully I think, that Trump was able to win election because people saw his raging problems, acknowledged them, and then convinced themselves that they were voting for a sitcom character.
Someone mentioned not banking on this bill failing in the senate because anything is possible-I'll be sticking to that. As easy as it is to say "well they won't be THAT stupid" I've said that already and yes, they really are. The one uniting front besides "OBAMA BAD" in congress is "fuck poor people and women" and this is both those things in one shitty package.
Neither is proper perspective. It doesn't make sense to assuming the unlikely thing will happen just because it's terrible and other terrible things have happened. Which, I mean, I get situations like this are emotional, but still.
Acknowledging anything is possible isn't the same thing as something being likely.
Honestly, and just speaking personally? I would not. Fucking. CARE. Nothing will EVER make up for what they have done, and nothing will ever convince me that they have become anything other than pure fucking evil incarnate, not even God Himself coming down from the fucking heavens and proclaiming to all the world that the Republicans have truly repented for their sins.
edited 4th May '17 12:42:06 PM by Reflextion
Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.I mean, the chances of the Republicans actually purging themselves of all of their toxic elements is slim to be generous, but if it we're to happen, I wouldn't hold the label against the new people.
Like, there's nothing intrinsic about them that means they have to be as vile as they are now. Without trying to actually defend their leadership or a lot of their base, that should go without saying.
So basically that. If they manage to somehow implode and rebuild themselves up from the ashes, that should be considered a good thing. It's just not something particularly likely to happen right now, and assuming it does, will still take time.
edited 4th May '17 12:41:22 PM by LSBK
No; if it is filibustered, they'd need 60 votes, and they only have 52 Republicans in the Senate. The Democrats have 46, there are 2 Independents that lean Democrat, and all 48 of them are solid 'nos'.
Currently, it doesn't look like they even need to Filibuster; enough Senate Republicans have said 'no' to the AHCA that it has little chance of passing. Trump would need to twist their arms into voting for it, but Senators are less likely to kowtow to the President then the House is. They could make changes to the AHCA that would make it more votable in the Senate, but any changes to the AHCA in the Senate will force the House to vote for it again, and there are good odds that any change to the AHCA from the Senate will turn the Tea Party back off.
They had their chance in 2012 to do that; they even 'autopsied' themselves and gave several good points that would make the Republicans more acceptable... The Party completely ignored it, doubled down on their Insanity that only appeals to Baby Boomers, and are now in this mess.
It's too late for the Republican Party, and people like Evan McMullins, Ron Paul and Mitt Romney are smart enough to see how bad the party has become and are actively leaving it. Only those desperate enough to hang onto power, or the Insane Baby Boomers themselves (like Trump), are staying Republican.
edited 4th May '17 12:44:28 PM by DingoWalley1
There's a difference between hope and blind optimism. The only way the Republicans would ever consider such reforms would be after a crushing loss. I'm talking "Democrats could unilaterally amend the Constitution" kind of loss. Merely getting put back in the minority would not discourage them. They'd just default to full blown obstructionism and bet on their voters not blaming them.

"Vote the shy, anxious, self-confidence lacking dude with an actual history of mental problems for California 11th
"
Yeah, I'd prefer to stay in the background, methinks.
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