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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#186851: May 4th 2017 at 11:52:51 AM

[up][up] Calm down sir.

edited 4th May '17 11:53:13 AM by Luigisan98

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WhatArtThee Since: Oct, 2015
#186852: May 4th 2017 at 11:54:52 AM

Damn, I was sorta expecting it but that really sucks. But i'm still holding out hope that it won't pass the Senate, given how rocky the original was and the changes are worse.

But still, JUST as I was thinking Trump's presidency was gonna be a lot better than I thought...

edited 4th May '17 11:56:06 AM by WhatArtThee

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#186853: May 4th 2017 at 11:54:55 AM

People whose lives are being legitimately threatened have every right to be freaking out.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#186854: May 4th 2017 at 11:55:42 AM

[up][up][up] What [up] said.

You're coming across as rather insensitive here, Luigi.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#186855: May 4th 2017 at 11:56:57 AM

[up] No no, I was trying to reassure him in standing strong...never meant to offend.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#186856: May 4th 2017 at 11:57:14 AM

I think Luigi's point is that you shouldn't act like the world is going to end when it's still very unlikely that this will actually pass the Senate. Still, anxiety is to be expected, and saying "calm down" over and over isn't helping.

edited 4th May '17 12:02:06 PM by LSBK

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#186857: May 4th 2017 at 11:58:42 AM

We can't bank on a Blue Wave, any more than I can bank on all my neighbours waking up tomorrow and realizing that voting Conservative has done nothing but screw them for decades.

I know I'm Canadian and not American, but whenever American tropers talk about how hopeless it is to be liberal in red rural districts, I feel sympathy pains, because that's exactly what it's like in the county I grew up in here, with people so archconservative I'm not sure they believe in flint. It's a district where the father of our current MPP once bragged that you could "paint a horse's ass blue and it'd be sure to win" (a reminder—in Canada, blue is Conservative, red is Liberal), and he wasn't wrong—his daughter, who has held her spot as long as I can remember, is utterly useless in Parliament but continues to win on her campaign of "I'm Bill's daughter". As time goes by we're only getting older and poorer, yet nothing changes politically. The only thing that trumps the area's conservatism is its xenophobia and insular nature; the one time the county went Liberal was when the Conservative leader lost his own district and they tried to parachute him into ours, where he lost because "he ain't from around here". As soon as Bill's daughter was running again, they voted the Liberals out and put her back in.

Having grown up with that attitude all around me, I find the idea that people who voted for Trump are suddenly going to go blue next year to be worthy of serious skepticism. It's also a big part of why I find the rhetoric of needing to reach out to the WWC or rural whites to be pretty questionable—I've been surrounded by these people all my life, and I've never seen change.

I hope there's a Blue Wave next year. I'll be watching with baited breath. But I'm not going to be surprised if things only get redder, grimmer, and poorer.

edited 4th May '17 12:00:41 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#186858: May 4th 2017 at 11:59:02 AM

[up][up] Thanks man. It's good to see people knowing (for some extent) that I'm trying to keep people together after all the crap that happened to me this week. smile

edited 4th May '17 11:59:32 AM by Luigisan98

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#186859: May 4th 2017 at 11:59:43 AM

[up][up][up] No offense taken, don't worry about that.

And I wouldn't say I'm freaking out, but I would say I am worried for me and my little brother (who also is Diabetic) and how our Futures are going to be kind of screwed up if this passes.

At least I've always wanted to get into Politics; If push comes to shove, I might have to work under a Republican to get Health Coverage, or move to a Democrat stronghold.

edited 4th May '17 11:59:55 AM by DingoWalley1

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#186860: May 4th 2017 at 12:02:55 PM

[up]When I initially read the "I've always wanted to get into politics" part, I thought for a second you were going to announce plans to run.

edited 4th May '17 12:03:27 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

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#186861: May 4th 2017 at 12:05:23 PM

We shouldn't say it's "unlikely" this will pass the Senate. After all, that's what people said about Trump becoming president, and look where we are now.

I know this keeps coming up, but it bears repeating. At this point, anything can happen.

i'm tired, my friend
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#186862: May 4th 2017 at 12:05:35 PM

[up][up] Sadly, I'm 23 right now; Since I have no desire to be a part of the Legislative process, the most I could do is run for Mayor, but Huntsville has an alright Mayor right now.

When I do actually run for anything, though, I'll let all you guys know somehow.tongue

edited 4th May '17 12:05:44 PM by DingoWalley1

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#186863: May 4th 2017 at 12:06:18 PM

The thing that we need to do is make the the house members who voted, pay for it. It will send a message to the swing Senators who are probably watching closely to how the public will react to this.

See this thread for more reasoning and strategy

https://mobile.twitter.com/benwikler/status/859838674258755584

edited 4th May '17 12:08:27 PM by megaeliz

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#186864: May 4th 2017 at 12:09:30 PM

[up][up][up]Trump's victory was always within the margin of error. Unlikely doesn't mean "impossible", but it also doesn't mean "probably going to happen because other bad stuff happened" either.

edited 4th May '17 12:10:38 PM by LSBK

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#186865: May 4th 2017 at 12:09:48 PM

@Dingo Walley

I'm seriously considering trying to get my younger brother to run for something someday. He was the uncrowned king of our high school, a beloved student athlete, deeply involved in the Church, and popular with basically everyone in our town. He's also so hard left he makes most of the posters in this thread, me included, look like members of the Club for Growth. He might actually have a shot, even in my lousy hometown.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#186866: May 4th 2017 at 12:09:57 PM

As far as the expectation of a blue wave in 2018 goes, structural factors are strongly against the democrats in terms of congress; they have way more senators up for election, and the house is heavily gerrymandered. Governor's manors and state level offices on the other hand are looking to be far, far more competitive in 2018.

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#186867: May 4th 2017 at 12:10:03 PM

I would be interested in being an actual part of the legislative process, but I don't think that my personality and general temperament is particularly suited to that sort of job. Who knows, maybe.

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#186868: May 4th 2017 at 12:10:42 PM

Apparently the Republicans are rolling in carts upon carts of beer to DC to for an impending AHCA repeal celebration...

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#186869: May 4th 2017 at 12:12:56 PM

The problems Clinton had with manging her public image would affect me more or less threefold as an elected official. While Brutal Honesty (or at least the appearance of it) seems to play well in the current political environment, I doubt I'd be able to stop my own cynicism and depression from seeping into basically everything.

[up] Not really particularly newsworthy honestly. The democrats doing something similar in the event of a major legislative victory wouldn't be especially surprising.

edited 4th May '17 12:13:45 PM by CaptainCapsase

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#186870: May 4th 2017 at 12:13:31 PM

If I was to be a public servant, I'd HAVE to be a policy maker or analyst who actually researched and wrote the legislation in and of itself, and getting into the weeds with other wonks.

Fuck being in the public eye. I wouldn't be able to get shit done with constant attacks from the right wing's dogwhistles and fauxgressives who are so far left that they can only walk in circles.

New Survey coming this weekend!
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#186871: May 4th 2017 at 12:13:47 PM

[up]x4 Considering Trump of all people won the Presidency, despite his temperament, and everything else, you might as well go for it if you ever really want to.tongue

[up]x5 Even a large blue wave at the state level is a good thing, although it'd be better in 2020 then 2018 because then they get to control the Redistricting. But I'm positive that the US House is going Blue. Trump and Congress's unpopularity should guarantee it going blue. People just need to vote.

edited 4th May '17 12:14:23 PM by DingoWalley1

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#186872: May 4th 2017 at 12:15:59 PM

No way in hell I could manage public office. I'd probably end up screaming my head off at the sheer stupidity and madness.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#186873: May 4th 2017 at 12:16:57 PM

[up][up][up] The type of incremental, positive change you imagine moderate technocrats implementing is vaishingly rare in the actual history of lawmaking; generally it's one step forwards two step backwards when everything is quiet in Washington, or indeed in any other country's capital. The environment in which substantial changes are made is unfortunately one of crisis, and while that doesn't mean we should actively seek to exasperate crises, sometimes there's no other option but to brace for impact.

edited 4th May '17 12:18:59 PM by CaptainCapsase

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#186874: May 4th 2017 at 12:17:17 PM

I'd probably just get elected once and then proceed my whole term just telling everyone of the Republicans to fuck off to their face, explicitly.

New Survey coming this weekend!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#186875: May 4th 2017 at 12:18:30 PM

[up]Careful...do that too often and you might end up re-elected. tongue

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