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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#186501: May 3rd 2017 at 12:21:16 PM

[up][up]Excellent that's exactly what Cheeto Benito deserves.

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#186502: May 3rd 2017 at 12:29:10 PM

AOL: Hillary Clinton to launch PAC aiding 2018 candidates, resistance organizations. Great of her to help! I just hope this doesn't become another conspiracy theory/purity test (as in people using "[x] is a paid puppet for corrupt Clinton" as a talking point to attack candidates benefiting from this)

This is a huge mistake and will only attract unneeded controversy in such a delicate time. Hillary draws way too much heat. If she wants to help, it's better that she not attach her name to a PAC.

edited 3rd May '17 12:29:51 PM by CrimsonZephyr

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#186503: May 3rd 2017 at 12:35:07 PM

Agreeing with Crimson.

Hillary is just not popular right now.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#186504: May 3rd 2017 at 1:12:57 PM

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/steven-bannon-s-whiteboard-do-list-exposed-twitter-rabbi-n754291

A Rabbi's tweet has gone vital because it shows a photo of him with Steve Bannon and, this is the interesting bit, what looks like a to-do list on the whiteboard in the background.

The article also notes the rabbi is a contributor to Breitbart.

edited 3rd May '17 1:15:36 PM by sgamer82

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#186505: May 3rd 2017 at 1:23:25 PM

The Neolib Wall Street whore named Obama donated $2 million to Chicago summer jobs program

Clearly he's still out of touch with the common (i.e. white) man. He should be more like Bernie, calling for unity while his followers booed at even the mentioning of Perez all while Sanders does nothing to stick up for him.

Also, this makes it 3-0 in the Dems favor for sticking up for the little guy. But they're still considered elitist or whatever nonsense the right spews out and the far left eats up.

edited 3rd May '17 1:24:11 PM by NoName999

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#186506: May 3rd 2017 at 1:23:26 PM

Speaking of raising money for progressive democrat candadate Swing Left has set up district funds, for democratic candidates

https://swingleft.org/district-funds

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#186507: May 3rd 2017 at 1:26:18 PM

[up][up]You are really taking what Warren said personally, huh?

edited 3rd May '17 1:27:19 PM by LSBK

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#186508: May 3rd 2017 at 1:28:45 PM

I can read that whiteboard in the tweet. It's a list of all of Trump's pledges on Obamacare and immigration.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#186509: May 3rd 2017 at 1:30:21 PM

No one even talks about Gitmo anymore...

Do not obey in advance.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#186510: May 3rd 2017 at 1:33:25 PM

[up]"National security"

Hillary: By that logic the DNC should not help at all with the candidates given the Holy Progressive Stamp of Approval, regardless of how badly they need the help.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#186511: May 3rd 2017 at 1:34:57 PM

@Krieger The DNC is a committee that has had most of their people replaced.

Hillary is still Hillary.

It's not even about progressives. Hillary has a lower approval rating than Trump right now. Wrap your head around that.

edited 3rd May '17 1:38:46 PM by MadSkillz

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#186512: May 3rd 2017 at 1:49:22 PM

Seriously? Isn't Trump still at an all time low?

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#186513: May 3rd 2017 at 1:49:42 PM

According to who? Breitbart? Our Revolution?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#186514: May 3rd 2017 at 1:53:40 PM

You could Google it....

edited 3rd May '17 1:53:50 PM by SeptimusHeap

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#186515: May 3rd 2017 at 2:00:42 PM

You are really taking what Warren said personally, huh?

Well yeah. So far the "centrist" Dems are looking out for the little guy. Protecting miner's retirement funding. Preventing Sessions from going after medical marijuana. Stood their ground at the threat of a government shutdown. And even if the ACA is still around primarily due to GOP incompetence, it's not like the Dems are saying "Yes repeal it."

And yet it's still not enough for the far left. Let alone, they don't even consider it an olive branch. For all this shit about unity and listening, the far left is still not doing it. Throwing an economic moderate Dem under the bus while defending the anti-choice Dem by claiming he's a true progressive. Still assuming Tom Perez is a corporate sellout while Bernie say nothing to defend him from his more rabid supporters. Like when is their goddamn turn? Because frankly, they've been insulting the party they've been apart of more than they attack Trump.

Yet they keep falling for the same bullshit talking points the GOP spout that "both parties are bad lulz". Every. Single. Time

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#186516: May 3rd 2017 at 2:01:23 PM

@Krieger I love how you think it must be biased as a first response.

The Washington Post. Specifically a Suffolk University poll.

As Hillary Clinton makes her reemergence with a speech at the Kennedy Center in Washington on Wednesday night, a new poll shows her with her worst image numbers ever. The Suffolk University poll shows that just 35 percent of registered voters have a favorable opinion of Clinton, compared with 55 percent who have an unfavorable one.

The same poll, meanwhile, shows Trump — for the first time ever — in significantly better shape than Clinton: 45 percent favorable and 47 percent unfavorable.

edited 3rd May '17 2:02:25 PM by MadSkillz

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#186517: May 3rd 2017 at 2:02:22 PM

So, in some good news, Joe Manchin has managed to get a bunch of the papers in West Virginia to give him, and by extension the Democrats, rather than any of the Republicans, credit for legislation protecting the health insurance of coal miners.

I know that Manchin can be a divisive figure, but if he's helping the Democrats get credit for helping the miners, something that many of us, myself included, feared they would not get, then more power to him.

And yet it's still not enough for the far left. Let alone, they don't even consider it an olive branch. For all this shit about unity and listening, the far left is still not doing it.

Don't call them the "far left". There's nothing far left about them.

edited 3rd May '17 2:03:36 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#186518: May 3rd 2017 at 2:08:14 PM

[up][up][up]That's fine and dandy and all, but that's not really the same thing as Warren calling Obama a "neoliberal shill bought out by Wall Street" trying to court white voters. Unless you think everything about Obama or Sanders comes back trying to get racist, white people votes.

Honestly, I'm not really sure what the issues is. That the Democrats are better doesn't mean the Democrats don't have their own issues or "being bought". Going "the other guy is worse, but we can still be better" is not false equivalency.

edited 3rd May '17 2:09:56 PM by LSBK

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#186519: May 3rd 2017 at 2:08:34 PM

Manchin is much better than any Republican could be. Thank Pele if he gets credit for the mining benefits.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#186520: May 3rd 2017 at 2:11:07 PM

Well yeah. So far the "centrist" Dems are looking out for the little guy. Protecting miner's retirement funding. Preventing Sessions from going after medical marijuana. Stood their ground at the threat of a government shutdown. And even if the ACA is still around primarily due to GOP incompetence, it's not like the Dems are saying "Yes repeal it."

But the bad news wasn't Trump's alone. The ABC/Washington Post poll found significant majorities said both the Democratic and Republican parties were "out of touch" with the concerns of most Americans.

Sixty-seven percent of respondents said the Democratic Party was out of touch, as did 62% for the Republican Party. Less than a third said either party was "in touch."

It's not a far left thing. That's what most regular people think.

And yet it's still not enough for the far left. Let alone, they don't even consider it an olive branch.

Their primary concerns aren't actually being addressed.

For all this shit about unity and listening, the far left is still not doing it.

That's what Tom Perez is preaching to strap them back into the party. Each side wants to be the actual leader. That's not going to happen unless you can get a guy that can satisfy both.

Throwing an economic moderate Dem under the bus while defending the anti-choice Dem by claiming he's a true progressive.

That was Sanders.

Still assuming Tom Perez is a corporate sellout while Bernie say nothing to defend him from his more rabid supporters. Like when is their goddamn turn? Because frankly, they've been insulting the party they've been apart of more than they attack Trump.

Less a corporate sellout and more a representative for the wing of the party believed to be corporate sellouts.

edited 3rd May '17 2:12:16 PM by MadSkillz

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#186521: May 3rd 2017 at 2:11:53 PM

Michael Moore thinks that the Democratic Party should run someone beloved by the American people as a presidential candidate.

Like, say, Vin Diesel.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#186522: May 3rd 2017 at 2:12:09 PM

That's very good news, if Manchin has found a way to take credit for progressive moves even in red states that's bloody brilliant, it's one of the key things Dems need to do in the future. Hopefully he can share the secret with the rest of the Democratic Party, though I do wonder if it's just that West Virginia media are less partisan shitbags than the national media.

As for the complaints about the "far left", just say Sanders, you don't like Sanders and don't like that he did a thing, that's fine, he'll everyone here has agreed that what he did was stupid, but please don't act like everyone who isn't a centerist agrees with everything Sanders says.

[up] I see no reason why Moore's opinion should be considered particularly valuable.

edited 3rd May '17 2:15:24 PM by Silasw

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#186523: May 3rd 2017 at 2:16:27 PM

If it takes a celebrity to beat a celebrity then just run Chris Evans.

Chris as Captain America and Trump is M.O.D.A.K.

And yes that really did happen. They turned Trump into MODAK in the comics.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#186524: May 3rd 2017 at 2:17:04 PM

[up][up][up] ...why Vin Diesel? People like him, I guess, but he's not exactly a public figure, and it doesn't help that the movies he leads aren't really considered great. And I'm a fan of the Riddick franchise.

Like, people (sort of jokingly) suggest Schwarzenegger, but he actually has experience as a governor. It's not an out of left field option. But some of these suggestions...

EDIT: Wait, he specifically says "not Vin Diesel". He's pushing for Dwayne Johnson. That's less weird than Vin Diesel, but why? What qualifications does Dwayne Johnson have aside from being a really entertaining actor and former wrestler?

edited 3rd May '17 2:21:12 PM by Zendervai

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#186525: May 3rd 2017 at 2:18:30 PM

That's very good news, if Manchin has found a way to take credit for progressive moves even in red states that's bloody brilliant, it's one of the key things Dems need to do in the future. Hopefully he can share the secret with the rest of the Democratic Party, though I do wonder if it's just that West Virginia media are less partisan shitbags than the national media.

Could be Manchin's own personal popularity in his state, which I'm told is fairly decent, at play. I'm not familiar enough with West Virginia to be able to say. If anyone here is, I'd be interested to hear more from them.

As for the complaints about the "far left", just say Sanders, you don't like Sanders and don't like that he did a thing, that's fine, he'll everyone here has agreed that what he did was stupid, but please don't act like everyone who isn't a centerist agrees with everything Sanders says.

I say don't call them the "far left" because they're not. Seriously people, let's stop giving the Unicorn Brigaders what they want. They want to believe that they are the purist radical left of the American political scene, and that their policies are just too much for "the establishment" to handle. This is horseshit. As evidenced by so very many things that Sanders and his diehards have said in just the past few months, let alone the past few years, they are in many respects far less progressive than the "centrists" and "neoliberals" that they denounce.


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