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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
This is sort of an obvious thing but yeah I think most voters in any broad category will tend to be low information.
I mean I definitely can't say I have a full understanding of how the US government works, or even my own country's government. And in fairness this is because things like the structure of government, economic policy, social justice, foreign policy, law, etc are all extremely complex and can take years of reading news sites and books, prolonged contemplation, and just plain experience to really understand on a deeper level.
And in fairness it can be hard for some people to really make the time for these things. I mean, it doesn't take much time to watch the news or maybe read an article on a website every now and then but things like that only get you so far. Some people lead very stressful, busy lives where it might not occur to them to become more informed because they're preoccupied with other things. I'm not necessarily saying that absolves them completely from any blame, but not everyone has the time to really dig into the nitty gritty of it all, even if it isn't ideal.
edited 2nd May '17 7:42:32 PM by Draghinazzo
Oh and yeah, I forgot to mention that, but I think a good deal of people (the majority, I might even say, though I don't have any statistics to back this or anything to this is all just supposition on my part) vote for mostly gut emotional reasons.
That doesn't necessarily have to be bad - I think a lot of people were offended by Trump's bigotry and his ignorance and their emotional reaction to that was a big factor in them not voting for him. I don't see that as a negative.
But you can't really ignore rational or practical concerns when things like politics are involved either, or you never get anywhere.
edited 2nd May '17 7:48:55 PM by Draghinazzo
I have the suspicious feeling that all of those other policies are nothing but bait to attract the voters they need to get a foot in the door.
I don't think it would be a shitshow. Because even if they get into offices, there's no way they could secede without the consensus of the US so realistically I have no problem with them winning offices.
edited 2nd May '17 7:52:59 PM by MadSkillz
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"Oh there's absolutely no way they'll ever succeed, so there's no harm in supporting them!"
edited 2nd May '17 7:54:12 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
Eh, Trump winning was always a possibility. Okay, maybe I should say that the chances are so minuscule that it's not worth contemplating.
I'm not supporting them btw. I just have no problem with them.
And perhaps they could shift California a bit further left.
@Alexa I'm not seeing it.
edited 2nd May '17 7:56:17 PM by MadSkillz
x4 Even if the CSP (which I hadn't heard of until today) dropped it's Secessionist ambitions, it'd still be bad because it would split votes away from the Democratic Party. You really want to risk making California become Competitive, or worse, Red with the current batch of Republicans?
I wouldn't tempt fate...
edited 2nd May '17 7:56:38 PM by DingoWalley1
CNP. They're not running candidates until 2018.
But that's a good point that you made Dingo.
I should say that I don't mind the CNP running candidates in super blue districts like San Francisco.
Which pretty much means that I have to hope they crater because there's no telling if they'd stop just in super blue districts. Alas.
edited 2nd May '17 8:00:23 PM by MadSkillz
Wasn't until university in a college specifically designed for aspiring bureaucrats that I got more than the theme park version of civics. And yet I wouldn't call myself overly knowledgeable given the existence of ppl like Johnson, Pelosi, and HRC who've had decades under their belt with Pelosi throwing it all out for the world to see.
Not 50 autonomous communities but more like a mish-mash of states that share ideals and culture together.
x4 Even in Super Blue Districts, I would worry that the CNP (not the CSP, which was my mistake) would steal enough votes from the Democrats to give the area to Republicans or even worse 3rd Parties (specifically, the Greens).
Vote splitting is a serious worry. Unless California decided to become the first state to do a List-Style, Pick-Favorite-to-Least-Favorite Voting System in the United States, these 3rd Parties stealing votes from the Democrats is very risky.
edited 2nd May '17 8:05:44 PM by DingoWalley1
I don't think I identify with any geographical region or culture.
edited 2nd May '17 8:06:46 PM by RAlexa21th
Continue writing our story of peace.What makes the Greens worse than the Republicans?
I support this.
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Their Anti Vaccine Stance, mostly, which would result in massive viral outbreaks in the country and would cause the empowerment of the "Alternative, Holistic" Medicine Bull that hurts so many people. I think Jill Stein also peddled the idea that Internet Modem's Guarantee Cancer, which screams crazy to me.

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Coming out of a Socialist Republic myself, yeah they are just as idiotic, it's just that they don't have the spine to back it up.
Continue writing our story of peace.