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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#185726: Apr 30th 2017 at 11:32:34 AM

[up]I notice the irony too, and when it gets brought up, it very often is complaining. And I get why it's complaining, it's just not internally consistent. Which I mean, people can't be all the time, but...

And I didn't say it wasn't a fringe issue. I was just using it as an example of something where people simplify the situation much more than it should be, because of partisanship.

edited 30th Apr '17 11:34:31 AM by LSBK

FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#185727: Apr 30th 2017 at 11:37:42 AM

[up]x7 And he thinks focusing on North Korea is more important than pre-existing health coverage: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-interview-full-transcript-face-the-nation/

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#185728: Apr 30th 2017 at 11:41:31 AM

[up][up]Fair enough.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#185729: Apr 30th 2017 at 11:44:27 AM

But anyway, with things like Oklahoma and Kansas, you have to wonder at what point does anything else beat out hatred of taxation, because it sounds like the people's lives are getting worse in very clear, ways without it.

FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#185730: Apr 30th 2017 at 11:45:42 AM

And he's kissing Kim Jong Un's ass now and calling Democrats obstructionists: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/331286-trump-on-north-korean-leader-obviously-hes-a-pretty-smart-cookie

edited 30th Apr '17 11:53:36 AM by FireCrawler2002

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#185731: Apr 30th 2017 at 11:53:00 AM

Maybe because not all people suffer from these mispolicies? That has been given as a reason why the housing crisis in California is a tough nut to crack: Unless you are an aspiring future denizen there or a renter, you won't be affected.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#185732: Apr 30th 2017 at 11:54:14 AM

I'll cut Trump some slack on that. If they're anything that will make Kim easier to cajole, its stroking his ego.

I won't cut Republicans as a whole any slack though, since this is the exact same thing they criticized Obama for.

[up]I can agree with that. One of the highest obstacle to the housing crisis here is the stubbornness of homeowners to do anything that would reduce the value of their properties.

edited 30th Apr '17 11:57:00 AM by Parable

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#185733: Apr 30th 2017 at 11:56:40 AM

[up][up][up][up] Because they aren't being effected and thus don't care or they are being effected and indoctrinated with the idea that it's somehow the Democrats fault or that the Democrats would make things worse.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#185735: Apr 30th 2017 at 12:55:01 PM

In my first 100 days, I kept my promise to Americans. An op-ed by Trump, notice what kind of people are in the photos of the rally.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Izeinsummer Since: Jun, 2013
#185736: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:01:52 PM

High housing prices are not an inevitable consequence of having a major urban area - Sometimes they are the result of geography constraining building in an economic hot-zone, but that is a rare case. Usually, high housing prices are a result of entirely deliberate policies meant to drive housing prices up. Because that makes houseowners happy. It screws over anyone that moves to the area, it screws over the next generation, but houseowners vote, and "fuck-you getting mine" is apparently an entirely socially acceptable attitude to have when it comes to houses going up in price

This is actually one thing red states genuinely are less insane about. The correct response to to high housing prices is to build more houses. Or taller apartment buildings. As applicable.

edited 30th Apr '17 1:02:30 PM by Izeinsummer

FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#185737: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:03:34 PM

[up][up] Let me guess, old white biker wannabes in their 50s/60s and Neo-Nazis?

edited 30th Apr '17 1:03:50 PM by FireCrawler2002

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#185738: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:11:38 PM

@Homeowners like high prices: Shouldn't it be the opposite? If prices are high it makes it insanely hard to move out of your current house. It also means you have to pay more on property tax.

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Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#185740: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:21:00 PM

[up][up]For many middle class homeowners their house is their greatest asset and store of value for the future. The hope is always that you'll pay off your mortgage before retirement and then after you sell your home for a big profit move some place cheaper to live out the rest of your days.

That's before even getting into things like real estate speculation and house flipping.

[up]That district is pretty rich and also very Cuban. I would not get my hopes up to see it flip.

edited 30th Apr '17 1:23:00 PM by Mio

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#185741: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:22:21 PM

Trump called Jong-Un a smart cookie? That may be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard Trump say.

When has Jong-Un ever demonstrated greater than average intelligence? Did I miss something?

Trump's tendency to praise (or not condemn) Jong-Un is suspicious and weird.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#185742: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:26:25 PM

In New York at least, part of the reason housing is so expensive is because building owners intentionally keep many buildings that could rented out (for housing or businesses) empty to keep prices ridiculous.

I wonder how applicable that is in other major cities.

edited 30th Apr '17 2:01:51 PM by LSBK

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A procrastination in of itself
#185743: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:28:41 PM

With London it's rich foreigners keep the buildings empty, though housing companies aren't any help

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#185744: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:29:27 PM

[up]x3 Trump probably considers ruthlessness and immorality the same thing as smart.

Kim probably is smart, in a Stalin-esque, kill everyone who looks at you funny sort of way.

edited 30th Apr '17 1:32:25 PM by nightwyrm_zero

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#185745: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:31:44 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if he respects North Korea's dictator more than the Pope.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#185746: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:34:29 PM

Kim Jong Un can kill whomever he wants. That makes him smart, in Trump's eyes.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#185747: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:47:22 PM

@Kostya: California has a constitutional limit on property taxes - an inheritance from the purple state times - so that probably isn't it. Housing in California is also not undesirable - there be a reason it is nowadays the most populous state - so that most likely isn't the case either.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#185748: Apr 30th 2017 at 1:53:27 PM

If I remember correctly, the housing crisis in California has two elements. One is that San Francisco's housing market is going insane because there's basically no new construction there. The other is that places like Los Angeles are actually way too spread out and the stuff that's getting built is too far away from the places where people actually work.

I might be wrong about the second part, but it's what I've heard.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#185749: Apr 30th 2017 at 2:04:58 PM

Trump is losing engagement on his Tweets on Twitter, especially compared to his first 50 days. The article does mention that it may be that his grammar is improving, and that he isn't typing all All-Caps like a baby, and is losing attention because of it.

I'd like to hope that it's because people, both pro and anti Trump, are just starting to tune him out.

edited 30th Apr '17 2:17:07 PM by DingoWalley1

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#185750: Apr 30th 2017 at 2:14:21 PM

Huh, I didn't expect that.

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