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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#185601: Apr 28th 2017 at 10:08:49 PM

[up]x3

"I wanna start relaxin', down in Burningham or Jaxon! When we're havin' fun, why, no-one interferes! I wanna talk with Southern Gentlemen, and put that white sheet on again! I ain't seen one good lynchin' in years!"

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#185602: Apr 28th 2017 at 10:36:15 PM

Judge Allows White Ala. Town to Return to Segregation

tl;dr: White families in Gardendale, AL wanted to break away from the county's schools because they didn't want their kids going to school with black kids, and despite recognizing that their reasoning amounted to nothing but sheer racism and that it would ultimately cause nothing but problems, the judge let them do it anyway.

Ain't this a federal law violation though?

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#185603: Apr 28th 2017 at 10:37:55 PM

Repealing Obamacare without a good replacement might violate International Law according to the UN. And no, the AHCA is not a good replacement.
You seem to be under the impression that Donald Trump and/or his base cares about international law. Actually, they probably do care, insofar as they see it as bad and would see flaunting it as a sign of strength from Twitler, who in their minds would be sticking it to the "globalists" or whatever anti-Semetic dogwhistle they're using these days.
People love their racist slaveowners that much?
But my great-great-grandfather! He didn't own no slaves and never even knew anyone who owned them! Rebel army never did warcrimes like arson-murder Sherman did! Atlanta worst crime of War of Northern Aggression! /Leeaboo

But seriously, there are a terrifying number of people who believe all of that, right up to the moral righteousness of their ancestors (and the moral degeneracy of those who fought to stop them) who fought for pretty much the worst cause anyone had ever fought for until about 75 years later, some mustachioed asshole started a war for even worse reasons (and somehow, that asshole also has defenders).

I have no sympathy for the South, their cause, or their army. Should have been Reconstructed so much harder.

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#185604: Apr 28th 2017 at 10:45:03 PM

[up][up] aaah, racism. It always gets rewarded,

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#185605: Apr 28th 2017 at 11:59:56 PM

Why does Alabama have to be a civil rights hellhole?

Also, who are the special snowflakes in need of a safe space now?

edited 29th Apr '17 12:02:47 AM by BearyScary

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#185606: Apr 29th 2017 at 12:01:22 AM

[up] Forrest Gump is going to be mad. tongue

But yeah, why Alabama? Why so regressive?

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#185607: Apr 29th 2017 at 12:14:34 AM

@Mc Tagg; Maybe, but since they won the case someone now has to sue them for it, and that takes money.

In any case, it seems like they're making more school districts, which I'm not sure anyone can actually stop them from doing, for any reason.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#185608: Apr 29th 2017 at 2:25:40 AM

Idle thought: Maybe Presidents should have to go through Basic Combat Training in order to gain an appreciation for and understanding of the military they're about to become Commander-in-Chief of.

While I'm sympathetic to the idea, it's worth noting that most Presidential candidates are in their 50's and upwards. Putting geriatrics through boot camp strikes me as a really, really bad idea.

And introducing a Germany or Scandinavia-style civil service draft would probably be impossible both in the current political climate and from a logistics perspective. You're just dealing with a much larger, much less densely populated country.

edited 29th Apr '17 2:29:25 AM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#185609: Apr 29th 2017 at 3:25:39 AM

Maybe make it a requirement that to run for President, you need to have held some political office in the past, same with the President's Cabinet.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#185610: Apr 29th 2017 at 3:28:27 AM

That would effectively eliminate the likes of Eisenhower, who had plenty of military experience but I don't believe he'd held political office.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#185611: Apr 29th 2017 at 3:39:07 AM

Before the current orange disaster, Eisenhower was the only President to never hold political office, correct.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#185612: Apr 29th 2017 at 4:41:00 AM

As far as I am aware, yes. And from what I know, he was not a disaster. I think he's the guy behind the fact that we have an entire highway system criss-crossing the country, so he was good for infrastructure at least.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#185613: Apr 29th 2017 at 4:44:47 AM

Under Eisenhower the USA also had a rather high corporate tax rate (50% I think) as well as a progressive income tax (90% top tax rate). He was a fiscal conservative who actually wanted to maintain a "balanced budget".

Eisenhower also started NASA, pushed desegregation forward, expanded Social Security, and created DARPA. So we kind of owe the Internet to him too. Oh, and the Departments of Education, Welfare, and Health were also instituted under his watch.

And in his farewell address, he tried to warn the USA against letting the Military Industrial Complex have too much influence.

edited 29th Apr '17 4:49:41 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#185614: Apr 29th 2017 at 4:51:31 AM
Thumped: Please see The Rules . This is a warning that this post is the sort of thing that will get you suspended.
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#185615: Apr 29th 2017 at 4:54:08 AM

[up] Yeah, these days any Republican who tries to argue for higher taxes (especially corporate tax) would be tarred and feathered by the rest of the party.

edited 29th Apr '17 4:55:01 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#185616: Apr 29th 2017 at 4:56:37 AM

Another quote that, in hindsight, is kind of darkly humorous:

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
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Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#185617: Apr 29th 2017 at 7:28:53 AM

Trump executive order aims to allow Arctic drilling

Donald Trump has signed an executive order aimed at reducing restrictions on oil drilling in the Arctic and Atlantic in order to "unleash American energy".

The US president said it would create "thousands and thousands" of jobs, despite a downturn in the oil market.

It could undo a ban put in place by Barack Obama in order to protect swathes of the ocean from development.

But Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said the decision was better than being held hostage by "foreign entities".

Getting rid of Mr Obama's environmental protections was one of Mr Trump's promises to voters while on the campaign trail.

As he signed the order, called the America-First Offshore Energy Strategy, Mr Trump said: "Our country's blessed with incredible natural resources, including abundant offshore oil and natural gas reserves, but the federal government has kept 94% of these offshore areas closed for exploration and production.

"This deprives our country of potentially thousands and thousands of jobs and billions of dollars in wealth."

It is debatable how much income might be generated by a reversal of Mr Obama's order. Worldwide prices for oil have dropped in recent years, with a review by news agency Reuters finding the amount of money oil companies spent in the central Gulf of Mexico's annual lease sale dropped by more than 75% between 2012 and 2017.

Meanwhile, environmental groups have already said they will challenge Mr Trump.

David Jenkins, president of Conservatives for Responsible Stewardship, a non-profit conservation group, said: "The Trump administration's hasty move today toward expanding offshore oil drilling ... defies market realities and is as reckless as it is unnecessary."



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Jupiterian Local
#185618: Apr 29th 2017 at 7:49:18 AM

Eisenhower was perceived as a do-nothing golfer in his time, but history's given him a generally more favorable view since. He's kind of the last Republican president who wasn't completely out of his goddamn mind.
He's also the last Republican president before the Civil Rights Movement kicked into high gear and the Southern Strategy (getting votes from racist white southerners) became the Republican standard. This is not a coincidence.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#185619: Apr 29th 2017 at 7:53:20 AM

[up]But the Democrats are the party of slavery! /s

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#185620: Apr 29th 2017 at 8:06:12 AM

@Eisenhower: I'd personally rank him as one of our top five presidents. He's probably the last great Republican president we've had and he laid the groundwork for a lot of the achievements the US had in the 20th century.

@Last Republican before Southern Strategy: Yeah, this is pretty obvious when you look at the maps. The south, which was once a Democratic stronghold, suddenly flipped to Republican around the time of the Civil Rights act. The people didn't just pick up and move. Their affiliation changed. The fact that this isn't obvious to anyone with a brain is ridiculous.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#185621: Apr 29th 2017 at 8:07:23 AM

Anyone know anything else about this? Fox News changes up it's lineup with new show

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/331070-fox-news-announces-new-show-the-fox-news-specialists?

Also this is shameful. The EPA taking down it's climate change page.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/331185-epa-removes-climate-change-page-from-website-amid-updates?amp

edited 29th Apr '17 8:25:34 AM by megaeliz

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#185622: Apr 29th 2017 at 8:11:04 AM

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history.
Well, he was technically right. The modern party attempts to abolish "wasteful socialist schemes," "rewards for laziness," and "restrictions on the right to worktm and the free market."

@Last Republican before Southern Strategy: Yeah, this is pretty obvious when you look at the maps. The south, which was once a Democratic stronghold, suddenly flipped to Republican around the time of the Civil Rights act. The people didn't just pick up and move. Their affiliation changed. The fact that this isn't obvious to anyone with a brain is ridiculous.
I wouldn't say this is widely known history, and its more complex to explain the southern strategy in a retort than for someone to say "Reps=Lincoln's party, the Dems are the real racists!"

edited 29th Apr '17 8:15:02 AM by CenturyEye

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#185623: Apr 29th 2017 at 8:35:51 AM

[up]Well, I said it before and it bears repeating-the party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt died the day after Eisenhower left office. By that time, Kennedy had stepped in on a wave of populism and the Republican party reached a breaking point. When Nixon lost, the party put him out to pasture and roundly rejected his warnings and the hard won lessons during his campaign. After Kennedy died, they though they had the next election in the bag and did not consider Johnson a serious incumbent threat.

They propped up Goldwater despite the warning signs, continued to ignore doomsayer Nixon, and you know what happened. When the remnants of the Republican party started picking up the pieces, Nixon spun his own clique of supporters into a serious force and put his foot on the throat of the party: he told them "my way or off to the scrapheap with you."

edited 29th Apr '17 8:36:34 AM by ViperMagnum357

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#185624: Apr 29th 2017 at 9:29:03 AM

So, been on a trip yesterday, and I just caught up with the last 20 something pages, I want to say a little about the "Gen Z is totes alt-right!" thing: the idea came from a study by marketing firm The Guild, and later was strongly propelled by the likes of the Daily Heil, the Telegraph and Fox as a propaganda point. The study itself is torn to pieces here, so you'll see it's really not something that should be given a lot of attention. Now, we still shouldn't ignore the issue of the alt-right growing in spaces where young people can be easily influenced by them, but it's probably not as big a thing as the spin makes it sound.

EDIT: Another counterpoint to that meme.

edited 29th Apr '17 9:38:59 AM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#185625: Apr 29th 2017 at 9:35:56 AM

I just want to say this in case people hear Trump say something about his Napoleonic period

  • He failed his hearthcare reform, twice
  • His attempts at stopping sanctuary cities were blocked.
  • He made tensions in the Pacific worse
  • And he made no progress on that wall of his (thankfully)

"Most successful of any president" my ass.


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