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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
We don't need Senators in the same role for decades. Plus it keeps Senate fresh.
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This is the main things I'm thinking about it.
Honestly, I think what our present predicament shows is that we need more elitism, not less, in who is allowed to hold office, and more frequent elections bringing in fresh slates of candidates works contrary to that. More gatekeeping is the key, a political priestly caste separate from the drooling great unwashed.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."Term limits reducing partisanship will probably be at the expense of cultivating old boys' clubs and good old fashioned embezzlement.
Because, if you haven't noticed, that is exactly what is happening in the White House right now.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotThe last thing our elections system needs is to encourage politicians to ignore their constituencies more.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.No because then we'll just end up with lots of people rotating in with no idea how anything works too often.
And with lobbyists - which are not subject to term limits - becoming the institutional root of the system. And competent politicians removed from office for no good reason.
On people not knowing how things work, the M Cs
The lobbying thing is the hang-up. The absence of a re-election campaign may render solicitation of "special interest money" pointless, but there's still other offices to run for, potential jobs afterward, and "expert authority" power based on just seeming to know what one is talking about.
Then there's a slight problem with getting people to vote their conscience. That's not necessarily a good thing. The junior members of congress/ tea partiers are more than happy to do just that, and twas only near riots on the street (threatening their fellow partisans reelection chances) that kept them from leading the repeal of the ACA.
Not that it doesn't sound good when one is thinking of McConnell...Me, I once mused about having members of Congress cleared for reelection by a first round of polling in a random district far away from their own (if only to emphasize national interests as much as local).
edited 28th Apr '17 11:59:16 AM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our livesIt'd do the fact opposite as it discourages partisanship and makes senators less likely to pass policies for special interest groups.
In fact, there was a study done that I linked to a while back which shows that term limits inhibits corporate influence.
edited 28th Apr '17 12:00:12 PM by MadSkillz
Daily reminder that the unwashed masses picked Hillary and the elites picked Trump.
No government shut down this week at least.
edited 28th Apr '17 12:02:52 PM by megaeliz
One second you're claiming that it was the white working class that elected Trump despite every exit poll pointing out that the shift was with white middle class voters, the next you're claiming it was the elite.
Make a choice and stand by it.
edited 28th Apr '17 12:10:55 PM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotI don't know if it's been reported here yet but, Congress has passed a bill that will fund the government for another week which will hopefully be enough time to get a full appropriations bill passed.
I should note it has not been mentioned whether Trump has or will sign the bill or not. It's possible he might veto or refuse to sign it out of spite, but I'm guessing it must have a veto proof majority for people to not even mention the possibility of such a thing happening.
In fact, there was a study done that I linked to a while back which shows that term limits inhibits corporate influence.
Discouraging partisanship doesn't inherently disadvantage special interest groups, special interest groups have influence beyond helping reelection, they also often target politicans regardless of which part they belong to. If the party looses influence than the gains will be made by special interest groups, not by the people (who now have no way to hold rotten politicans to account).
You don't seem to realise the cooperate influence on politicans comes in forms other than campaign donations, infact while campaign donations are a big factor I'd wager that it's far from the biggest one.
I'll take a link to that study by the way.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThat doesn't make Trump elected by elites. One of the things that came up in the discussion about the electoral college after the election was just what a bunch of random schlubs the electors actually are. Calling those people "elites" is to broaden the term to the point of meaninglessness.
Trump won because of the common moron who got swindled by his twisted version of charisma. Actual elites - intellectuals, business leaders, politicians, etc - overwhelmingly went for Hillary.
Found the study.
I'll quote some others part
By contrast, donors to campaign coffers wield less power in states with term limits and more highly educated voters.
These conditions, writes Powell, predict how much time legislators devote to fundraising for themselves and for their party. She shows that the more time members spend on either type of fundraising, the greater the influence of contributions in the legislative process. "I am not arguing that there is much quid-pro-quo influence," says Powell. "But even the best intentioned legislator receiving money from an interest group is likely to at least listen to what donors have to say. And if you are hearing much more from people who donate money to you, it is hard not to be swayed by the greater body of argument and evidence from donors."
edited 28th Apr '17 12:15:15 PM by MadSkillz

‘They’re dead to me.’ Atlanta mayoral candidates clash over Braves move
While I'm utterly indifferent to the braves' move, it and this series of responses does demonstrate the less than healthy weaknesses of some central cities vis-a-vis their metropolitan areas. And a whole chunk of this story is in the comments where a city-burb cultural clash is playing out.
Oh, and a gubernatorial candidate wants GA to have its very own Trump Georgia 2018: Fixin’ to get ready to run for governor
Williams, a businessman who once owned a chain of Sport Clips barber shops, has hinted repeatedly he would run for governor in 2018 after Donald Trump’s victory.
His strategist, Seth Weathers, said [State Senator Williams] has been encouraged by people “looking for a viable candidate for governor other than the same career politicians.”
“As the first Republican elected official in Georgia to endorse Trump, a lot of that core Trump base is looking to Williams as someone who can carry that mantle at the state level,” said Weathers. “He’s leaving all options open.”
Then again, Kemp already has his GA First slogan up...Some people just know good role models when they see them. Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives