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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Trump Warns that "Major, Major Conflict" with NK is possible
And with that I question whose bright idea was it to consolidate the entirely of the nation's military power onto one guy?
edited 27th Apr '17 11:02:32 PM by MorningStar1337
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Seeing these two comments back to back is sort of amusing. We do not need to deny people their humanity (that's the other side's job). We also don't need to pretend nothing bad can happen and that just by being ourselves we're somehow fighting back (actual resistance is required).
Somewhere between embracing the tactics of the enemy and being a deliberate pollyana there is a middle ground.
It's also a term that's been embraced by the incel freaks and used to refer to everyone other than themselves, Stacey, and Chad. And no, I'm not explaining any of those terms to people who weren't here last time those whackjobs came up. You can see them
in use
here
.
edited 27th Apr '17 11:05:03 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar
On what was mentioned last page;
Hitler was not exactly the picture for efficient evil. He never did his own dirty work. He left all that over for Hermann Goering (until Goering got a little too drugged up), Heinrich Himmler (nervous chicken breeder wreck), and Reinhard Heydrich (egoistic reckless sociopath with a self loathing thing and a Kushner-esque list of jobs).
Dictators have oft been placated men sitting on thrones prepared for them by other people. Some are just better at hiding that inconvenient little fact.
edited 27th Apr '17 11:18:24 PM by NickTheSwing
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And the evil of the confederacy was also built on even older evils- America inherited slavery from England- from their imperialism and superiority complexes. Which was the result of bad shit happening even longer ago.
The fact is that sometimes, bad people just win. Which is why it's important that good people do what they can to make sure that happens as infrequently as possible.
edited 27th Apr '17 11:24:05 PM by Gilphon
"I want to know if this is related to the alt-right and if that is part of the reason they made Trump their champion?"
Yes, let me quote /tg/ who hate pol(for diferent reasons that us) and give their vision.
(WARNING,Strong language)
" in the true atavic nature of mankind, /pol/ happened. Many political arguments far too numerous to count here, from immigration to crime and race, started being argued upon in /b/.
But then, /b/, internet, and anonymity with bastardly human nature does not mix. Considering that /b/ had a history of racial supremacy, memetic bigoted insults like using "nigger" as an insult, "faggot" as an endearing word, and "jewgolds" or "shekels" as the term for money since 2008's when its clash with Scientology unlocked some darker aspects of anger inside its userbase.
4chan's userbase is naturally a product of the industrial society bred a lot of NEET's and frustrated people who was kept in line with entertainment and porn and economical welfare, who gladly support any political party as long as their needs are met.
What happens if contemporary circle of "bread and circuses" fails? Financial Crisis? Enter the rise of /pol/, and abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
Millions of edgy teens and frustrated male youth, no longer satisfied with the current state of affairs and finally goaded into anger by the rising counter-sexist conjuncture, supercharged the politically incorrect arguments with "shitposting", and "refuge in audacity" actions such as gleefully embracing the Nazi accusations out of sheer anger and enjoying the catharsis it brought, even though a true National Socialist regime would put most of them in death camps."
this is the other part people dosent talk about the alt right in the internet because people are to focus with the racism: the alt right is overly aggressive in their methods, unlike the neo nazis who go outside and get label as violent punks or get punch or the typical white racist who just use dog whistle but chicken out, the alt right just try to annoy and hardass their objective until they claim victory, in a way this is what Donald does, he just annoy the competition until he wins by being to stuborn to accept convencional defeat.
if you take the racism from the alt right, you just have edgy teen trying to shit post, if you take that from donald, you only got a old jerk.
M85: the almost comical aspect of trump winning is that in many way their voter look like that woman who is in abusive relationship because the guy buy him shinny things(not expensive, SHINNY things) and tell her she is pretty, you WANT to hell her is not a good choice but you one very damn well she is going to said "you are just jealous".
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"The fact is that sometimes, bad people just win. Which is why it's important that good people do what they can to make sure that happens as infrequently as possible.
Yep. We're still cleaning after our forebearers while we create new messes.
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Yeah, it's been brought up too that Trump more or less negged America into making him President. And now despite being a lazy good-for-nothing spouse, America still tries to cover for him. Everyone who tries to tell her she made a mistake and should dump him is treated with hostility and told You're Just Jealous and I Can Change My Beloved ("Give him a chance").
America also acted like she was somehow above falling for someone like Trump ("It Can't Happen Here!") and looking down on or pitying (in a condescending way) those who did fall for a demagogue in the past.
No. For better or for worse, they are Americans. I'm not going to deny them that just because they do and say things I don't think are right.
edited 27th Apr '17 11:57:56 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedFun group, aren't they? The sad part is, this isn't the worst of their stuff. As anyone else who regularly visits FSTDT (or god forbid the subreddits and websites where these guys actually hang out) can attest, they are probably the single most insane group of people on the Internet, and that's really saying something.
To bring that back round to the topic of the thread, a lot of them seem to have voted for Trump for no other reason than the belief he'd make everyone else's life as miserable as their own. Not the belief that he'd help them get laid (the only thing they care about), but that he'd put the "bitches" and the "normies" and the "cucks" and the "Chads" in their place—right next to the incels in self-loathing misery.
I'm not one hundred percent sure if they should be classed as part of the alt-right—something tells me even the likes of Bannon might look at some of those sites and go "really?"—but they certainly are in its orbit and make use of all of its memes and terminology, twisted that slight bit further to fit their "all that matters is sex" worldview.
I will never pass up the opportunity to cite this quote from Charles Dickens' 1842 American Notes.
The merits of a broken speculation, or a bankruptcy, or of a successful scoundrel, are not gauged by its or his observance of the golden rule, ‘Do as you would be done by,’ but are considered with reference to their smartness.
I recollect, on both occasions of our passing that ill-fated Cairo on the Mississippi, remarking on the bad effects such gross deceits must have when they exploded, in generating a want of confidence abroad, and discouraging foreign investment: but I was given to understand that this was a very smart scheme by which a deal of money had been made: and that its smartest feature was, that they forgot these things abroad, in a very short time, and speculated again, as freely as ever.
The following dialogue I have held a hundred times: ‘Is it not a very disgraceful circumstance that such a man as So-and-so should be acquiring a large property by the most infamous and odious means, and notwithstanding all the crimes of which he has been guilty, should be tolerated and abetted by your Citizens? He is a public nuisance, is he not?’ ‘Yes, sir.’ ‘A convicted liar?’ ‘Yes, sir.’ ‘He has been kicked, and cuffed, and caned?’ ‘Yes, sir.’ ‘And he is utterly dishonourable, debased, and profligate?’ ‘Yes, sir.’ ‘In the name of wonder, then, what is his merit?’ ‘Well, sir, he is a smart man.’
edited 28th Apr '17 12:05:25 AM by Eschaton
Regarding unknowing's post, the edgelordism component of the alt-right is something I feel doesn't get talked about enough in terms of what their motives are and what drives them. Yes, the bigotry is obviously really important but in some cases I get the feeling that they're just driven by a really unpleasant view of human nature and society where people are always acting to fulfill their basest urges and anything that appears otherwise is just a smokescreen or a facade. The kind of attitude where caring about anything (well, I guess except supporting donald and sticking it to whatever people they dislike) is seen as automatically making you lose face. That type of view can also just as easily lead to a milquetoast "both sides are equally bad" political nihilism but the alt-right specifically draws on feelings of revanchism against groups protesting the status quo.
In addition to the bigotry I think that's also a big reason why they hate "the left" so much, because they think they're a bunch of phonies and hypocrites or just people seeking to advance their own interests at their expense, so what they do in response to that is equally valid.
edited 28th Apr '17 12:06:31 AM by Draghinazzo

edited 27th Apr '17 10:49:44 PM by Luigisan98
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