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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
How so, O Three Mouthed Fox of Tactical?
edited 25th Apr '17 2:50:15 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!It happens when Internet screws you up. Can you drop the condescending act now.
Continue writing our story of peace.Say, what happened to the regular White House leaks? I've just noticed that there's been little mention of them in recent weeks... though I admit that I've been skipping pages a lot and relying on the WTFJHT feed to keep me up to date.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Yeah I haven't heard about any more leaks, they may have been plugged, gone dark to simply been fake to begin with.
Also I'll add myself to the list of people interested in a explanation for Cruz's rule in Obama appointing a ton of judges.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI often wonder if I should give Trump voters the benefit of the doubt.
Should I?
I've often heard it said there's a reason these people turn to the outliers, like the economy or stuff, but then we get research suggesting that racism was indeed a major influence in voting. Not the only influence, of course. But then there's everything else he said and did, and that didn't disqualify him in their eyes.
I don't know how to look at people with views that I despise so. How do I talk to them?
How you approach them is up to you, but if you wind up in the States you are likely to run into them regularly everywhere, on account of being a fifth of the population.
Benefit of the doubt? No. This was not Le Pen with dogwhistles, or Tories with the flat-out lies-what you see with Trump is what you get, and only the fascist cubbyholes on the internet like Redpill and Breitbart even pretended otherwise. After 14 months on the campaign trail, all this crap on the news every single night, and taking off a work day to vote for this? No. No benefit of the doubt.
edited 25th Apr '17 3:42:52 PM by ViperMagnum357
A lot depends on the voter in question, there's a big difference between the twenty something Trump voter who hates women and minorities and the 50 something union worker who voted for Trump because all the new organisations told him that Clinton in the next Nixon, the fifty something women who voted for Trump because she gets all her news from Facebook and was told that all the bad things about Trump are lies.
I wouldn't give high information voters the benefit of the doubt, but the super low information ones, they might deserve it.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranTheres also the fact that the white middle class has been disproportionally harmed by globalization, and blame the Washington establishnent. Basically, they feel the hurt, and believe the right wing propaganda. The way to tslk to them is to listen to their concerns, then respectfully disagree.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.I was thinking recently about this article in the Onion that was calling attention to the fact that because of various underlying demographic factors, the person (people) making racist and otherwise horrific comments in articles are actually middle class people who presumably live otherwise normal lives with normal relationships with their friends and family, etc.
I think that's a good parallel to how there's large swaths of the county of people who believe and/or vote for some awful things but are often perfectly friendly (in fact those areas are stereotypically supposed to be the most nice and wholesome Americans), and they'd probably be genuinely nice to any one who they encountered who was a member of a group about which they believed negative stereotypes, due to some combination of seeing them as "one of the good ones" and there being a difference between how one treats those inside and outside of the "monkeysphere".
Note- I should also clarify that this isn't just a racist and/or Republican voter thing. This is pretty much true of everyone everywhere to varying extents.
Trump just keeps loosing. Another excuitive order shot down by a federal judge.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/330516-federal-judge-blocks-trumps-sanctuary-cities-order
From the Sexism and Men's Issues thread: The Republican Lawmaker Who Secretly Created Reddit’s Women-Hating ‘Red Pill’
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1. Of course it's a Republican.
2. Who's taking bets that Bannon is the account owner of at least 3 the_donald mod accounts?
edited 25th Apr '17 4:33:27 PM by IFwanderer
1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KVFrom what I understand, Trump's order against sanctuary cities ran afoul of separation of powers - only Congress can decide where money goes and Trump has no right to arbitrarily withhold any of it from the lawful recipients.
And it ran afoul of States Rights (insert ironic laughter) since apparently the federal government can't force local law enforcement to do ICE's work for them.

Ironically enough, Ted Cruz is the reason we have so many Federal Judges stacked by Obama, which are in turned blocking Trump's bullshit.
New Survey coming this weekend!