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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#171776: Jan 31st 2017 at 11:55:41 PM

Corporate personhood basically means that the articles of incorporation create a legal person, which can sue, be sued, and enter into contracts, as well as bear liability without transferring it to shareholders like a partnership or sole proprietorship.

The problems start showing up when you take the leap that these "legal people" have the same rights as actual, literal people, despite lacking such things as bodies, wills and minds of their own, and, assuming that you believe in them, souls.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#171777: Feb 1st 2017 at 12:04:38 AM

Also it becomes a problem when the people running a corporation do evil and then shed the corporation like a hermit crab shell while being protected from liability themselves. (There are good reasons to separate corporate and personal liability, so if something goes wrong your personal assets aren't at stake, but it can be gamed and abused.)

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#171778: Feb 1st 2017 at 12:07:22 AM

(Full disclosure: I'm from a family of corporate types)

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#171779: Feb 1st 2017 at 4:24:34 AM

There's a reason a lot of people aren't fans of Citizens United.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#171780: Feb 1st 2017 at 5:25:50 AM

I call Trump Citrus Hitler and keep Darth Bannon since the man opened the door on that one. Although I think he'd like that too much to say it to his face.

I can't help thinking somewhere down the line, if these people did win there would be a city named Bannongrad.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#171781: Feb 1st 2017 at 5:28:29 AM

I usually don't post Cracked articles in this thread but...

This one is way too relevant for this one. 5 Ways powerful people trick you into hating underdogs.

Inter arma enim silent leges
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#171782: Feb 1st 2017 at 5:32:09 AM

... Any news over the past 12 hours that I've been away from this thread?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#171783: Feb 1st 2017 at 5:38:45 AM

Doesn't seem like it. Those 12 hours were mostly night time, so Trump probably slept for about three of them and mumbled madly to himself for the other nine.

ETA: Oh, wait, spoke a little too soon. He actually left Obama's LGBT executive order alone, saying he would let it stand. That's good. Is it sad that probably the best thing he's done so far was to say he wasn't going to do anything at all on something?

edited 1st Feb '17 5:41:38 AM by Journeyman

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#171784: Feb 1st 2017 at 5:51:50 AM

@Journeyman The best thing he's done so far was to backpedal on something. Says it all really.

Edit: page-topper again? Sigh.

edited 1st Feb '17 5:52:15 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#171785: Feb 1st 2017 at 5:58:02 AM

It is a sad thing when the best Trump can do is to not do anything.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#171786: Feb 1st 2017 at 6:19:47 AM

Well, he took credit for a unit cost reduction for the F-35 that was already expected to happen, then called the plane he famously slammed a few weeks ago "great".

So, points to everyone who called Trump not actually doing anything with the program, then takes credit when economies of scale kick in.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#171787: Feb 1st 2017 at 6:26:18 AM

What a guy!

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#171788: Feb 1st 2017 at 7:26:45 AM

That's been Trump's Modus Operandi since his days as a real estate developer; he does 5% of the work and takes 95% of the credit; (self) promotion is his only real talent.

edited 1st Feb '17 7:27:06 AM by CaptainCapsase

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#171789: Feb 1st 2017 at 7:33:40 AM

Trump just described Frederick Douglass as "someone who has done a terrific job that is being recognized by more and more people"

LAWD.

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#171790: Feb 1st 2017 at 7:41:29 AM

What does that even mean?

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#171791: Feb 1st 2017 at 7:42:57 AM

What's funny with that, besides the "kid who obviously didn't do homework ineffectually trying to b.s." is that it's not even accurate. AFAIK, Douglas was famous during his own life and has been consistently well known since.

Also, to quote Yair Rosenberg, "I was going to watch Trump talk about Black History Month but decided it'd probably be more fun to have my brain extracted through my ears."

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#171792: Feb 1st 2017 at 7:44:40 AM

Some light-hearted fun:

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#171793: Feb 1st 2017 at 7:47:25 AM

@Zephyr: Whatever you want it to mean. Trump has taken the politician's answer (complete non-answers that dodges the question and/or empty feel good statements) to whole new levels of vapidity.

edited 1st Feb '17 7:48:24 AM by CaptainCapsase

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#171794: Feb 1st 2017 at 7:47:47 AM

To Donald Trump

Not sure what you got planned for Black History Month, but whatever it is, we'll pass.

Regards,

Black people.

New Survey coming this weekend!
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#171795: Feb 1st 2017 at 8:00:39 AM

Senate committees have changed the rules allowing them to go forward with confirmation despite no Democrats present for the committee.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#171797: Feb 1st 2017 at 8:01:35 AM

[up][up]Inevitable, but disappointing.

edited 1st Feb '17 8:01:46 AM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#171798: Feb 1st 2017 at 8:04:52 AM

Al Franken is yelling at Ted Cruz right now.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#171799: Feb 1st 2017 at 8:17:54 AM

Apparently this was also said at the event.

What the ACTUAL fuck did I just read?!

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#171800: Feb 1st 2017 at 8:22:16 AM

Is that Trump's statement? Either a case of shameless lies or of bipolar disorder.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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