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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Here's
another (longer, and also ongoing) thread painting us a picture of Mr. Gorsuch.
This man has no place on the SCOTUS, even if the seat wasn't stolen. The time for the Dems to fight back is now, while they still can. When democracy is being dismantled before our very eyes, we can't exactly afford to hang back and wait for future battles, because there may not be any.
Still true tho.
edited 31st Jan '17 5:35:06 PM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."The President of the European Union has named Trump a threat on the level of Russia, China, and terrorism.
Yeah, US isn't going to have many democratic allies for much longer.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Voters who said that the Supreme Court was the most important factor in their choice broke for Trump
I love the fact that Democrats have a diverse coalition of voters, but godDAMN if they're not fucking idiots at times.
New Survey coming this weekend!
The average person in the Democrats' target demographic is probably going to be a Single-Issue Wonk for something more immediate than the supreme court. Where the Court will be in twenty years is inconceivable to them because that's as long as they've been alive.
Me? When I started thinking about my own mortality, that's when I dropped that attitude entirely. I'll be alive eighty-ish (personally hoping for ninety) years if I'm lucky, and because of Trump, a monster will be on the SCOTUS turning America into even more of a terrible place for twenty of them.
edited 31st Jan '17 5:50:50 PM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."That is how the GOP is going to ensure future elections are unwinnable for the democrats, mark my words.
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I'm not worried about most of those attempts at all. Not only do Pennsylvania and Virginia have Democrat Governors, but Pennsylvania tried to convert to the Proportion system with a Republican Super Majority (including Governor) in 2009-10, and it just fell through. Michigan, Virginia and Wisconsin are almost guaranteed to get Democrat Majorities in their Congresses in 2017-18. Combined with Nebraska trying to revert to Winner-Takes-All, I don't think their is much risk for those 4 states.
New Hampshire, on the other hand, is a weird state, and I wouldn't be surprised if they go through with it. Whether that makes New Hampshire permanently Red or not, I can't say. I doubt it, but again, New Hampshire is weird.
edited 31st Jan '17 6:10:47 PM by DingoWalley1
The SC was a lost cause the moment Clinton lost. The best case scenario is that Trump only lasts one term (and is replaced by a Democrat), which is no guarantee (there's no guarantee that you'll be a true or even passable democracy by 2020), and no more justices die. The doomsday scenario is Bayer, Ginsberg and Kennedy (or even Obama's appointments) dying/retiring in some combination. Even the conservatives leaving would be bad, as they'd be replaced by younger blood.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.The SC is the only weapon we really had. Five glorious dictators ready and willing to drag America into the future over the amassed conservative filth foaming up around us. If the election was any indication, it's that progressives can't save America from itself.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."I was about to say what
[up said.The court was looking like this before Scalia died and that wasn't the end of the world. It's less the guy himself and more the stolen seat itself that I think is the problem.
edited 31st Jan '17 6:43:05 PM by LinkToTheFuture
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas EdisonI would not entirely write off the idea of the other conservative justices on the court turning against Trump. They're older, pre-Obama conservatives who are more likely, statistically, to be repulsed by him. And whatever their leanings they recognize the fundamentals of the Constitution and probably recognize that Trump does not.
I wouldn't count on Uncle Thomas protecting the Constitution from Trump when he sleeps through most court proceedings.
And Alito is just vile; trying to flip him is a lost cause.
edited 31st Jan '17 6:45:32 PM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."I seem to recall someone in this thread saying that Kennedy and Roberts probably won't be happy with the way Trump is disregarding the courts.
edited 31st Jan '17 6:50:01 PM by Pseudopartition

Surprise! Trump won and now the Supreme Court is a write off for 20 years, unless Ginsberg, Bayer and Kennedy pull through.
But emails!
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.