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iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#171426: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:28:35 PM

[up][up] Because when had Trump ever lied about something?

edited 30th Jan '17 10:28:45 PM by iflewaway

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#171427: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:38:24 PM

Trump's opinion blows with the wind. As we've previously established, it's entirely based on whoever's talked to him last.

  • Monday: "After talking to one of Obama's people, I have decided to take no actions against LGBT people."
  • Tuesday:' "After a quick talk with Vice President Pence, I have decided to outlaw gay marriage.
  • Wednesday: "After watching an episode of Full House this morning, I am now gay married."

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#171428: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:40:20 PM

[up] Hmm, maybe someone needs to send him all of the available episodes of Steven Universe and My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. His maturity level is about right for those shows.

Hey, if Reagan started taking nukes seriously after watching The Day After...

edited 30th Jan '17 10:43:11 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#171429: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:46:00 PM

Trump's Mismatched and Bizarre Agenda 2

  • Thursday: "After watching Yugioh Arc V this morning with my son Barron, I've decided I will defeat ISIS by dueling Baghdadi."
  • Friday: "After a quick seance contacting Rudolf Hess' ghost, I now only eat organic food and am very into horoscopes."
  • Saturday: "Following my son Eric's recommendation, I watched The Prisoner. I'm not sure what I'm doing today."

edited 30th Jan '17 10:46:40 PM by NickTheSwing

iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#171430: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:46:16 PM

[up][up] I don't know, those might be a little too mature for him. He'd probably get bored and put on G.I Joe.

edited 31st Jan '17 12:17:45 AM by iflewaway

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#171431: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:47:02 PM

[up] It would at least be more intellectually stimulating than his usual fare of Fox News.

Disgusted, but not surprised
fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#171432: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:47:25 PM

[up]x5 he's already gay married to Putin though.

edited 30th Jan '17 10:47:46 PM by fruitpork

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#171433: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:47:27 PM

[up]Maybe we should call it "DoDo's Bizarre Agenda" from now on.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#171434: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:48:14 PM

Seems to be news that Trump took off Yates from the role of Acting AG for refusing to follow through the order.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#171435: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:49:19 PM

@Link To The Future That's an insult to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and dodo birds. Especially to the dodos — poor birds are already extinct, they don't need to be associated with Trump.

edited 30th Jan '17 10:50:57 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#171436: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:50:01 PM

[up][up] We know. The New York Times reported it about 5 hours ago.

edited 30th Jan '17 10:51:04 PM by iflewaway

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#171437: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:10:31 PM

"after watching the winter soldier I decide to rename our party as the HYDRA party....banon seen very happy about this, dunno why"

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#171438: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:33:18 PM

@Crimson Zephyr: Wow, if your main contribution to the thread is to say "we're not better than this" then uh... I'm not even understanding why you're in the thread. This is exactly the kind of hyperbolic pessimism that I've come to dislike in the thread. I don't have words for how infuriating that kind of talk is. It solves nothing, and says we shouldn't bother trying. What are you even trying to accomplish by saying that? This is a serious question.

Also, I second the request to stop making posts that are just video embeds: I requested earlier for us to stop making posts that were just quotes from fiction without any other context and the videos aren't any better. I know a lot of you get a kick out of them but they're getting kind of spammy now.

edited 30th Jan '17 11:44:06 PM by AceofSpades

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#171439: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:39:10 PM

America may have tripped and fallen, but it's not out of the race. I'm not so pessimistic (yet) that I think the Trump administration is a Career-Ending Injury.

edited 30th Jan '17 11:39:23 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#171440: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:41:29 PM

[up][up] That's the spirit!

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#171441: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:44:41 PM

W... was that at me, Luigi? I'm not even sure what you're responding to?

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#171442: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:45:14 PM

Halliburton is advising its workers from the countries on the banned list to avoid visiting the US. Yes, that Halliburton.

Remember how the Steele dossier claimed that Trump was promised 19 percent of Rosneft if sanctions were lifted on Russia? 19.5 percent of Rosneft just got sold, buyers unknown.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#171443: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:47:03 PM

[up][up] Yes, to you, Aceof Spades, for knocking sense in what's important in this fight here.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#171444: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:49:15 PM

I think the Hitler parallels have lost their power with the Republican half of the population. Democrats have been calling Republican presidential candidates Hitler since Nixon.

Now that we have an actual Hitler-esque candidate, they've already hand-waved it as another overreaction by us.

Same with Republicans calling every democrat a socialist. It's lost its meaning. Kind of why I don't think that label would've even hurt Bernie Sanders if he had beat Hillary.

That half of Republican hardcore Trump supporters is never going to go away. But the other half are willing to jump ship if Trump doesn't deliver.

I'm not worried about Trump winning a re-election in 4 years which probably he won't win. I'm worried about Trump cancelling elections and assuming direct control now.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#171445: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:51:19 PM

[up] Hopefully Trump is too narcissistic to think that there's any way he would not be re-elected. Remember, this is someone who may actually be deluded enough to think that he lost the popular vote because of millions of "illegal" votes in California.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#171446: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:54:48 PM

Vanity Fair: Jared Kushner's influence over Trump appears to be flagging

Trump has not embarked on a moderate position, of course, regarding either issue. And, according to a source familiar with the situation, Kushner’s influence on his boss may be flagging. Last week, Kushner spent 24 hours trying to broker a meeting between Trump and Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto. The source said that Kushner was even considering flying to Mexico in order to convince Peña Nieto, who had butted heads with Trump over various issues, to travel to the White House. Ultimately, Peña Nieto agreed—a feat Kushner presented to his father-in-law on Wednesday night. It was his first real victory in the West Wing in his role as senior adviser, and it would be a major step toward turning one of Trump’s main campaign promises into a reality.

Less than 12 hours later, though, it all fell apart. After Peña Nieto reiterated that Mexico does not plan to pay for Trump’s proposed wall, Trump tweeted that if Mexico is “unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall, then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting.” Just like that, the meeting was canceled. “Kushner was fucking furious,” the source told me. “I’d never once heard him say he was angry throughout the entire campaign. But he was furious.” (A representative for the Trump administration did not immediately respond to a request for comment.)

Kushner also appears to have already endured the physical toll of the job. He has become pale, the source noted. His body language and his demeanor toward Trump had changed, and he had lost a noticeable amount of weight from his already slight frame in just a week. (Another source who knows Kushner said that he typically forgets to eat when working long hours. Nevertheless, Politico’s Playbook on Monday spotted him picking up pizza in Dupont Circle on Sunday evening.)

Bannon's divorce records. Posting because it contains a pretty good record of what's inside his head. Not recommended bedtime reading.

Bannon will require Senatorial confirmation to be allowed to serve on the NSC. Call your Senator.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#171447: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:58:04 PM

Trump's a political chameleon.

He reminds me a little of 19th century Mexico's Antonio Lopez De Santa Ana, 8th president of Mexico.

He flip-flopped parties and positions depending on which benefitted him the most. He had pretensions to kingship. So incompetent he lost half of Mexico to the US.

A charlatan of the highest degree.

Narcissistic enough to be the self-proclaimed Napoleon of the West despite being an incompetent general.

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#171448: Jan 31st 2017 at 12:00:30 AM

I think the Hitler parallels have lost their power with the Republican half of the population. Democrats have been calling Republican presidential candidates Hitler since Nixon.

Have they? I admit we have the benefit of hindsight but would we honestly compare politicians like Reagan and the Bushes to Hitler even with all their horribleness? It's not an accusation to throw around lightly.

I'm not worried about Trump winning a re-election in 4 years which probably he won't win. I'm worried about Trump cancelling elections and assuming direct control now.

That isn't even really necessary I think. Voter suppression and gerrymandering will do it and with people like Sessions in the administration I see those as basically shoe-ins.

About the only way to beat that would be to brute force your way through those with an enormous turnout, but there's no telling whether Trump and the GOP would accept the results after 4 years of god knows what.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#171449: Jan 31st 2017 at 12:00:43 AM

[up][up]

So incompetent he lost half of Mexico to the US.

It'd be darkly hilarious if Trump somehow lost half of the USA to Canada and/or Mexico.

edited 31st Jan '17 12:01:19 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#171450: Jan 31st 2017 at 12:01:30 AM

[up] That means...

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