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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Under early morning advice from Bannon POTUS to push Spicer to accuse Muslim ban protests of compromising national security.
POTUS not pleased with Priebus using @Meet The Press appearance to promise green card change that POTUS rejected. Feels his hand was pushed.
Unholy Trinity back Gorsuch for SCOTUS. Had POTUS convinced. But POTUS swaying back to Hardiman for spite, despite look of more nepotism.
Bannon suggested reaching out to Gorsuch and Hardiman to gauge willingness to back Muslim ban EO in court. Pence dissuades, but barely.
VP Pence argued that neither would entertain question. But point that convinced POTUS was concern about press coverage if it got out.
There is concern that info will be leaked that proving @Rep Pete King's part in EO design was to purposely ensure a de facto #Muslim Ban
POTUS asks why he should "give a damn about muzzie Canucks?"
@Victin:So the TL;DR of that is basically "well he could be trying to become a dictator, but don't forget that it's just as likely that he's just being a gibbering moron. It's impossible to call either way at the moment, and we can't afford to lose our minds"
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas EdisonThe Rogue POTUS twitter account said that there would be an Anti-LGBT EO this weekend. If it does happen, then we can probably verify the Twitter account as somewhat reliable, if not always reliable.
Also, my money on that is it's going to be about Bathrooms.
Well, they silenced the original Rogue POTUS twitter account, and this is a 2nd one. And it's supposedly not one mole, but a whole collective of workers who keep leaking the stuff through that twitter account.
Again, if there is an Anti-LGBT EO this weekend, we can probably believe that they have some connection to the White House.
edited 30th Jan '17 1:55:04 PM by DingoWalley1
Another twitter account is showing a little evidence to that account being legit
https://mobile.twitter.com/Geek2Nurse/status/825718880727339008
Why not both? Trump is a gibbering moron, but he's greedy and power-hungry, too. An intelligent evil person would try to consolidate his power and ease us into fascism; Trump genuinely seems to believe that his sloppily-written executive orders are all he needs.
Unless the theorists are right and this really is being run by Bannon in an attempt to confuse and misdirect, in which case it would be a clever move for him to have it leak some verifiable information in order to get people to trust it, then continue to use it as a weapon of misinformation.
The Twitter thread Mad Skills linked is a bit hard to parse but basically they called that the Mexican president was canceling a planned meeting with Donald tomorrow.
I do remain skeptical but...
edited 30th Jan '17 2:06:10 PM by Elle
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Which is exactly what Bannon and his propagandists want. That's the atmosphere they're trying to create. That's the atmosphere in which autocrats and dictators thrive.
It's our job to stay skeptical and cut through the bullshit. There can be no resistance without an informed populace.
edited 30th Jan '17 2:06:07 PM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."

A "counter(ish)point" to the Medium article "Trial Balloon for a Coup?"
(link goes to a tweet that includes both links)