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#171076: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:14:30 AM

Maddowblog: The Trump organization has declared the media as 'an opposition party' and appears to be treating it as even more of an enemy than the Democrats. This is apparently because the media is doing its actual job of calling out the Trump team's mauling of the concept of facts.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#171077: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:15:17 AM

[up][up][up]Yes.

[up][up]Doubtful, if Trump starts crackdown hard enough to get Ottawa off its ass, it will be the kind of crackdown where Trump/the GOP will only care about the targets' brains insomuch as how they are splattered against the nearest wall or street corner. It would take massacres/unlawful executions, on a significant scale and against clearly targeted demographics, to truly open the Canadian (and Mexican) floodgates. By that point, Trump won't bother to chase anyone who he sees no value in.

edited 30th Jan '17 9:16:19 AM by Rationalinsanity

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#171078: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:17:16 AM

Schumer seems to be finding a spine! He's vowed to vote against almost all of Trump's remaining cabinet nominees, and here he is on the verge of tears, condemning the Muslim ban as mean-spirited and un-American, promising to fight it tooth and nail.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#171079: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:17:35 AM

[up][up] Unless the Blue states give a fight against any executioner who may come, remember that people who lived in countries with long democracies will never give up at all in fighting for what they believe...

edited 30th Jan '17 9:19:54 AM by Luigisan98

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IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#171080: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:18:24 AM

So...just in case, is there any country in the world that would accept an american immigrant with a history major and 1/2 of a Masters in Library Science degree? Like, do I even stand a chance?

Argentina is relatively lax, as far as I know the only problem would be if you have a criminal record.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#171081: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:19:36 AM

And on the notion of criminal records and crossing the Canadian border, if you do get caught trying to cross illegally, you are essentially banned from Canada for life. So, for anyone even semi-seriously thinking about it, it isn't worth it unless life and limb are at stake.

edited 30th Jan '17 9:20:05 AM by Rationalinsanity

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#171082: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:19:36 AM

Thomas Hardiman is a likely choice for Supreme Court justice.

"and here he is on the verge of tears,"

And typically, Trump basically calls him a crybaby and faking it.

edited 30th Jan '17 9:22:40 AM by speedyboris

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#171083: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:20:56 AM

[up]Relevant.

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#171084: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:21:31 AM

[up]Is he good, neutral, or bad?

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Ludlow Since: Apr, 2013
#171085: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:23:30 AM

[up][up][up][up]Something to hope for at least.

I know its selfish to consider emigrating as a white, middle class male, but I'm honestly scared that Trump is going to start cracking down on anyone who opposes him soon.

edited 30th Jan '17 9:26:32 AM by Ludlow

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#171086: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:23:59 AM

[up][up]Three are worse than Scalia, especially on free speech-and likely to vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.

[down]Hardiman is a best case scenario.

[down][down]Clarified.

edited 30th Jan '17 9:27:53 AM by ViperMagnum357

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#171087: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:24:05 AM

Hardiman also has the backing of Trump's closest judicial source: his sister.

Well, I guess a normal conservative getting in on nepotism is better than a maniac getting in on ideology. Dems don't have a huge issue with him, and he apparently doesn't have a Scalia type personality to influence other justices.

edited 30th Jan '17 9:25:48 AM by Rationalinsanity

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#171088: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:26:14 AM

[up][up] I meant Hardiman.

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#171089: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:33:14 AM

Five Thirty Eight says Hardiman would be the most centrist voice on the Court.

Which means he's the best we can hope for unless Trump for some reason decided to nominate somebody left-leaning out of nowhere.

edited 30th Jan '17 9:33:31 AM by Gilphon

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#171090: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:36:17 AM

A centrist replacing Scalia right now would be a miracle. And frankly not much worse than Garland getting screwed over.

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#171091: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:40:20 AM

Trump may be intending to ignore the Supreme Court (and Congress) entirely, so a centrist pick for justice would be a bone thrown to the hungry dogs while he quietly poisons their meat.

This Medium.com article paints a rather scary picture of the administration's actions: beheading the major departments of the executive branch and consolidating power into a shadow cabal that is accountable to no law, with its own private security and intelligence forces. The ultimate objective is to loot the country and fill the coffers of the President and his cronies with unimaginable wealth.

Who's going to stop them if they simply ignore the laws and the courts?

edited 30th Jan '17 9:44:43 AM by Fighteer

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#171092: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:52:48 AM

[up] Active resistance enough to drive them to tears if stressed and pressured enough.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#171093: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:53:31 AM

Someone who has no scruples at all, presumably.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#171094: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:58:27 AM

To be frank, if they are going to openly defy the law and the courts, open rebellion is very possibly on the table.

Who does it and how, I leave open as a practical exercise.

I would rather the fight be won by legal means but if those become closed the options are limited.

edited 30th Jan '17 10:01:10 AM by Elle

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#171095: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:00:32 AM

The Andrew Jackson parallels are certainly becoming more apropos by the day, I tell you that much. He also flaunted the Supreme Court's ruling.

He's making a mockery of the rule of law. He needs to be stopped and removed from office now.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#171096: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:01:43 AM

Well I called my Rep's office and used a script saying I'm against the Muslim ban. I got a secretary who essentially gave their own script justifying the EO. There was a little back and forth, but it wasn't a disaster. I wasn't calling to argue and ended the call once my message was across. She used Obama's EO from 2011 as a justification, btw. She sked for my name and address too, but I just gave my name and town.

Now I just need to call my senators. Bob Corker has issues with the EO but I don't know if he really opposes it.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#171097: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:02:47 AM

"Who's going to stop them if they simply ignore the laws and the courts?"

The voters. He has to run again in 4 years.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#171098: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:05:19 AM

[up] What if they decide to rig the elections?

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#171099: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:05:59 AM

[up][up] Not if they successfully rig the elections before that time.

[nja]

edited 30th Jan '17 10:06:08 AM by RBluefish

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#171100: Jan 30th 2017 at 10:06:06 AM

Jackson isn't a good comparison because, to start with, he actually had the credentials to back up his macho talk, and had significant government and military experience prior to taking office. Trump is just Trump, and that's what's alarming about him.

Incidentally, for those of you wondering how congressleople vote relative to Trump, here's 538's tracker. Sanders, Warren, and surprisingly Booker and among the least supportive senators so far. Schumer has been in the middle of the democratic pack, and Feinstein thus far has been a downright collaborator.


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