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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#170726: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:32:56 PM

I'm actually a Canadian citizen and have lived there for most of my life, so I already know a few places and have other reasons why I'd want to return.

That list could still be helpful though. Thanks for that.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170727: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:34:01 PM

A thread warning of how the Muslim ban, and especially the uprising on opposition to it, may be all part of Bannon's agenda.

By implementing something as cruel and grossly unconstitutional as this, he knows that the right will embrace it, while the left reviles it, widening the division in the nation and sparking mass protests. Which leads the right to view the left more than ever as traitors and enemies, dehumanizing us in their eyes.

Which may all be leading up to a Tiananmen Square style situation. Frankly, at this rate, I don't see how we don't get a day sooner or later when troops or police are ordered to fire upon civilian protestors.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#170728: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:35:18 PM

It will be like the ending to V For Vendetta, except I'm not sure that US forces/police will hold their fire.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#170729: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:35:22 PM

University here (Canada) is cheaper for citizens anyway, right?

But yeah, if the Republicans think the refugee crisis is bad now, I assure them that it is going to get so much worse with climate change. Very few people actually want to move away from their homes and everything they know, but when the conditions get bad enough they feel like they don't have any other choice.

edited 29th Jan '17 12:36:07 PM by Pseudopartition

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#170730: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:39:21 PM

[up]Varies by province, as a Nova Scotia resident I get like 500$ deducted from my tuition each semester if I maintain a certain GPA. But there are also incentives for international students.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170731: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:39:29 PM

[up][up][up][up] Don't get too cynical about it.

edited 29th Jan '17 12:39:49 PM by Luigisan98

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#170732: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:41:33 PM

wild mass guessTrump is secretly pulling a Zero Approval Genghis Gambit to get the divided nation of America against him by acting like as much of a moron as possiblewild mass guess

edited 29th Jan '17 12:41:47 PM by LinkToTheFuture

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#170734: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:44:47 PM

@ Link To The Future: Won't work-too many people in this country look at everything he has done and say, unironically, " This is fine."

[down]Consider my post in absolute Sincerity Mode.

edited 29th Jan '17 12:46:16 PM by ViperMagnum357

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#170735: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:45:26 PM

Hence the Joking Mode.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170736: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:46:02 PM

Feinstein is going to introduce two bills in retaliation to the Muslim ban. The first would immediately rescind the executive order. The second would remove the President's ability to unilaterally ban groups of immigrants.

Will it get the support it needs, is the question. Barely a handful of GOP Congress members have spoken out against the ban.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#170737: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:48:19 PM

[up]If they can get their Senators to stick together, they only need 3 Republicans to sign. The big question is what to do about the vast gulf in the House, and I see no way of bridging that right now.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#170738: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:48:29 PM

We have to try

Oh really when?
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#170739: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:50:15 PM

And even if it gets voted down, the means the GOP has to own the policy.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#170740: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:54:31 PM

All of this may bite the Republicans in the ass down the line. Best case scenario is that three Reps do defect for this vote and the other 49 have to live with it.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#170741: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:55:00 PM

Tell Graham and Mccain to put their money where their mouth is, and sign on the dotted line. Then make a run at Susan Collins, who refused to Endorse Trump on moral grounds-same put up or shut up moment. In the House, put it on the floor and require a written reason to oppose the motion by anyone who refuses to sign-at least get an idea of where their sticking points are.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#170742: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:58:06 PM

Call me naive, but it'd be baffling if McCain and Graham didn't defect on this after talking about how much they were against it. If so, that just needs one more defection...if those two actually put their votes where their mouths are.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#170743: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:00:26 PM

Republicans are to be considered collaborators until proven otherwise.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#170744: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:01:27 PM

[up][up]The problem is that McCain has gained a rep for taking big without backing it up. So nobody here is expecting him to stick to his guns when the going gets tough.

edited 29th Jan '17 1:01:37 PM by sgamer82

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#170745: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:12:05 PM

Bannon being shuffled onto the NSC is probably the most terrifying thing that's happened over the weekend.

It's been a week. One week. One fucking week.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170746: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:12:09 PM

It might pass the Senate if Graham and McCain find a spine (which would be a momentous occasion indeed), and Collins finds a conscience. Do we all pretty much agree that it has no real chance of passing the House, though?

Only way I see that happening is if they yield to the outrage of their constituents, like what happened with the ethics incident. I guess I'm calling my Congressman again.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Proglottid Since: Mar, 2010
#170747: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:12:27 PM

At this point it's safe to say stunts like this aren't "distractions" anymore. They're doing EXACTLY what they want to do, and are just hoping that eventually we get exhausted enough to stop fighting them

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#170748: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:16:03 PM

What about a veto?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170749: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:17:43 PM

[up][up] And that probability for it to succeeded, is a mere 1%.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#170750: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:17:50 PM

[up][up][up][up]Best thing to do if it reaches the House is request specific reasons for opposing-provide some insight into at least a few Republicans that respond, and the ones that refuse even that you can probably write off as not worth bothering with at all.

edited 29th Jan '17 1:18:00 PM by ViperMagnum357


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