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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#170576: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:43:57 PM

Why fight when he can ignore the courts?

Because Trump is a thin-skinned narcissist, and can't stand the idea that people don't adulate him. A smart villain would ignore the protesters or give them a small victory. Trump will throw a tantrum. In addition, his "policies" really are crap, and many of his voters already have buyer's remorse, so while he's flailing around, it's easier to drop support

Not that this will be easy, or victory is guaranteed. But they can't have everything their own way.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170577: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:44:14 PM

I think there may be a number of airports disobeying the court order.

Also...Trump filed for 2020 reelection on January 20th? Which has a variety of short and long-term consequences, even beyond how fucking creepy it is.

Remember how him and his cronies confidently talk about "eight years?" Not four. Not "four or more." Eight.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170578: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:47:43 PM

[up] The people and others won't let that happen.

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#170579: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:49:31 PM

By 2020 the people may not have input on the election anymore.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#170580: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:50:44 PM

I was going to say that.

They already have people getting detained and possibly disappeared. And this is only day nine now. After four years of this shit, if we don't find a way to get all these traitors locked up or worse . . .

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170581: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:51:37 PM

[up][up] Already some premature pessimism?

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#170582: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:51:54 PM

People can file for reelection this early in their presidency?

Do not obey in advance.
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#170583: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:52:49 PM

Well, we'll see.

I think it depends on whether or not the Rust Belt states that swung red this election decided that Trump has failed them or not, and states like Florida, NC, or Ohio swinging blue or not. It be hilarious if we would be able to snag a couple of red states too, but we were expecting a landslide this cycle and look where that got us (I maintain though that James Comey is my current scapegoat)

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#170584: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:53:46 PM

No, premature pessimism is saying "All hail the King forevermore." This is admitting the possibility that there might not be a real election. It IS a possibility, no matter how optimistic you want to be, it's within the bounds of reality that the U.S. itself MIGHT not exist. It is nowhere near certain, but if we don't acknowledge the possibility, brainstorm how it can happen and find counters, we MIGHT get blindsided.

I'm all for pushing on and fighting the good fight, but admitting we're walking a tightrope tends to make us more careful to fight smart.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#170585: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:56:51 PM

[up] I see...but still, the actions of many groups and some leaks may make Trump reconsider his choice, that is, unless his cronies go all Starscream on him.

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#170586: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:57:40 PM

They will, but then they'll turn and devour the American people.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#170587: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:59:06 PM

When Trump spends his first week enacting a putsch by way of executive decree, considering the possibility of a cancelled election isn't premature.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#170588: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:00:51 PM

Canceled election?

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170589: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:00:54 PM

[up][up][up] And fight them back with all their strengths maybe up to a standstill.

Come on guys, you're better than that, I'm not saying I'm rejecting the possibility but the spirit to do the right thing always lingers here and there, if we use it strongly, then a future will be ensured.

edited 28th Jan '17 10:01:05 PM by Luigisan98

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#170590: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:01:41 PM

That's why I say wait and see how the enforcement agencies and the military swing. If the man's willing to lie and create whole new words for it, the support of the military and alphabet agencies might make him overlook how the rest of us feel.

Remember: The economy's in a precarious position, and it's only going to get worse in the future if we don't get a handle on automation, or reform the economy to take jobs out of the equation. And, unfortunately, the people like Trump are the ones pushing harder for automation. If they can hold on to power long enough to automate the majority of the economy, they will never need to heed us again. All they'd need was enough crackers to keep hackers out of their systems, and the military's loyalty, and they could forcibly downsize the rest of the populace if they needed to.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#170591: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:04:09 PM

" I'm not saying I'm rejecting the possibility but the spirit to do the right thing always lingers here and there"

Not in Republicans.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170592: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:07:24 PM

I try to remain hopeful, but agreed—hanging our hopes on the Republicans developing a conscience is a fool's gambit. They have no conscience.

The ACLU National Director says that "I hope Trump enjoys losing. He's going to lose so much,we're going to get sick and tired of his losing."

As if I needed more reason to love the ACLU right now.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170593: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:09:17 PM

[up] Some of them have a chance of redemption.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#170594: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:10:26 PM

hahahahaha

Sean Spicer just retweeted the onion, unironically.

LAWL.

Check it out

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170595: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:11:27 PM

[up] Heh.

Aheh.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh dear me. Spicer is just the gift that keeps on giving, isn't he? Any chance of that being an actual self-deprecating joke on his part?

[up][up] Then they'd better start stepping up right here, right now. Denouncing the Muslim ban would be a good start.

edited 28th Jan '17 10:11:48 PM by RBluefish

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#170596: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:15:01 PM

[up][up][up][up]I'm cherishing that tweet with the entirety of my dark heart. [awesome]

Well, reality pretty much is a headline from The Onion now.

edited 28th Jan '17 10:16:10 PM by BearyScary

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170597: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:17:28 PM

Also, in case any of us needed further reason to be morally revolted by the Muslim ban, a woman at Dulles Airport was separated from her five-year-old son for hours when he was detained by officials.

Read those words again. US officials detained a five-year-old boy for hours, refusing to let his mother see him...why? Is the five-year-old a terrorism suspect?

They are now reunited, thankfully. But how many others are there? I've also seen reports that other detainees included infants.

[up] It's getting harder and harder to tell Onion headlines apart from real headlines, I tell you that much.

edited 28th Jan '17 10:17:54 PM by RBluefish

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#170598: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:30:32 PM

A lot of us American people (Myself included) utterly hate this whole "there's only one real choice" thing we've got going on now. I know, I know, it shot us in the foot this time, but the point stands. America is about freedom above all else. Seriously, that's just it. When you give us only one acceptable choice, we're hemmed in. So we really need to get back to the point where we have two viable parties with two stable platforms that won't actually harm or kill us as a nation. We NEED it. Freedom's about choice. So we need a choice that isn't life or death.

Moreover, in a legitimately open and free democracy you can't expect one party to win every time. They can hold onto it for a while, but unless they stack the system and pervert it to guarantee they win regardless of what happens, power trades hands.

So having that be literally the difference between a nihilistic black hole of a government and an at least passable one is just not acceptable because if that becomes the choice there is a good chance it will happen, as it has now.

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#170599: Jan 28th 2017 at 10:39:31 PM

[up][up] From an extremely cynical perspective, yes - children must be considered just as deadly terrorist suspects and adults because we naturally assume that they are innocent, allowing for potential terrorists to exploit this vulnerable flaw in the human psyche.

By all means, ISIS and al-Qaeda's leadership must be practically drunk with glee by this point. They, like the Joker, have taken the best and brought them down to the lowest.

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A procrastination in of itself
#170600: Jan 28th 2017 at 11:21:51 PM

What's the situation at airports in Dem controlled states right now? Because if they're defying the court order to let people though and thus illegally detaining them it's time for the local police to be sent in, if the local police refuse to follow the court order Thai situation may boil over into the national guard being mobilised to spring people from airport prisons.

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