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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170526: Jan 28th 2017 at 7:44:46 PM

I hate the way mental illness is stigmatized and that is a real concern here, but I also think that we should make sure the nuclear codes don't get placed into the hands of someone who may be dangerously unpredictable or delusional. Hopefully this evaluation wouldn't automatically exclude anyone who happened to have a mental illness, but rather would determine whether or not their mental illness would compromise their ability to fulfill the responsibilities of office.

The detainees at DFW Airport are being released! The fact that that so many people fought for that, and the overjoyed cheers of the celebrating crowd, should give even the most cynical among us some modicum of hope. This is what America should be, not Trump's abominable "vision."

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#170527: Jan 28th 2017 at 7:45:03 PM

So Bannon's plan is to destroy American society and the Republican Party so he could remake it.

Ryan, Priebus and Pence want to use Trump as a tool to enact their agenda and then ditch him.

And Trump wants people to love and praise him and to get even richer.

Guess who has had the most success this far

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#170528: Jan 28th 2017 at 7:47:06 PM

Ya'll, if Pence, Ryan, and Mcconnell don't make where they stand very VERY clear in the next few days, we're headed towards a constitutional crisis.

New Survey coming this weekend!
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#170529: Jan 28th 2017 at 7:48:42 PM

One the good guys will almost certainly win. Trump just experienced his first real defeat. It will not be his last.

edited 28th Jan '17 7:49:13 PM by DeMarquis

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170531: Jan 28th 2017 at 7:52:59 PM

If you ask me, we're already in a constitutional crisis. A lot of people just don't know it yet.

Trump is a traitor, an aspiring tyrant, and an illegitimate president. He has already violated the Constitution numerous times and will continue to do so if we let him. HE GOT TO GO.

Also, did we mention that not only is Darth Bannon being appointed to the National Security Council, he's replacing the Director of National Intelligence? Who Trump removed with an executive order? Did we talk about how fucking harrowing that is?

This former CIA member says it makes her physically ill. If she's worried, we should be really worried.

edited 28th Jan '17 7:53:59 PM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170533: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:09:24 PM

[up][up] FUCK YES!!!

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#170534: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:22:42 PM

Guys, I need help.

My girlfriend lives in Singapore. We've been in a long distance relationship for almost eight years now. We were planning on getting married this or next year, and her moving to the states with me. But because of Trump I'm not sure how possible that is now. The immigration ban apparently affects greencards, but would it affect her working here? I know that it suspends the U.S. visa waiver program, which effects Singapore. It looks like I'm probably going to have to move to Singapore or Canada if we're going to be together.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#170535: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:24:44 PM

If you can contribute wherever you go, I doubt anyone would blame you for going elsewhere.

I'll never emigrate but even with folks fighting back and winning I don't hold high hopes for a good future here. Just a long, horrible slog.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170536: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:27:27 PM

[up] Looks like someone needs a wake-up call for the future. https://youtu.be/dMR2S9_8E08?t=67

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#170537: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:29:24 PM

Obama's Labor Secretary Tom Perez has joined protesters at George W. Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
TropesForever God forbid women do anything from wait where is she Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
God forbid women do anything
#170538: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:29:54 PM

[up][up]The future will be Screwed by the Lawyers. That would make sense, but I don't think it's the point you wanted to make.

Seriously, what is that video?

edited 28th Jan '17 8:30:18 PM by TropesForever

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#170539: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:29:56 PM

[up]x7 I'm terrified.

edited 28th Jan '17 8:30:59 PM by fruitpork

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#170540: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:32:16 PM

I know this song. Pretty sure she's a Russian. tongue

A horrible thought I just had. Trump IS a traitor. That deluded, horrible man is probably going to be executed (possibly publicly) for his crimes against the country. On the one hand, he deserves a horrible fate for inflicting this on us. On the other hand . . . that's not going to turn our country into anything good. A lot of people are either not seeing or not paying attention to what we're seeing, so they're going to look at that, and they're going to think the GOP are swell guys for finally freeing us of that tyrant.

We're going to see a Nazi America where Hitler was deposed and his cronies took the reins. I'm not sure if that's better or worse than what we have now.

ETA: [up][up] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rFW2Df5iRs

No lyrics, but it's the song Rise by Origa.

edited 28th Jan '17 8:33:12 PM by Journeyman

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170541: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:32:46 PM

[up][up] Some lyrics from a Russian-Japanese song about standing up against the enemy, and the English lyrics fit nicely, so that's why I added it here.

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170542: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:33:58 PM

[up][up] And probably one which is a short-lived one because some GOP officers may struggle with power.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#170543: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:37:10 PM

Bannon overules Dept of Homeland security judgement not to apply ban to greencard holders.

Also an apparent quote from Bannon is in that tweet thread is pretty freaking scary. Apparently it came from here

"I’m a Leninist,” Bannon proudly proclaimed.

Shocked, I asked him what he meant.

“Lenin,” he answered, “wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.” Bannon was employing Lenin’s strategy for Tea Party populist goals. He included in that group the Republican and Democratic Parties, as well as the traditional conservative press.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#170544: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:41:26 PM

[up] I still don't understand how Trump could align himself with someone like Bannon. Bannon wants to destroy the state; Trump wants to rule it as a king. How did Autocrat Trump align himself with Anarchist "Leninist" Bannon?

How deep did Bannon's mouth go into Trump's ass to make him ignore his vileness?!

[down] Okay, reading through that, I finally figured out what that means: Custom Border officials won't let lawyers meet their Captives, which is going against a Federal Court Order. It's bad, but I was thinking it was actually a lot worse then that...

edited 28th Jan '17 8:46:18 PM by DingoWalley1

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170545: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:41:29 PM

That quote cannot be posted enough. We all need to be aware of the kind of man we're dealing with here. All the chaos, the confusion, the fear that's plagued Trump's first week? All by design. This is what he wants.

Reports that the CBP is failing to comply with the court order.

The hell is this shit?

[up] Bannon's smart. Trump's Trump. I imagine if I got close to him, I could probably manipulate Trump, the man's that much of a fool.

edited 28th Jan '17 8:42:02 PM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#170546: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:43:16 PM

I wonder...

just as a hypothetical, is there any possible way that Bannon could end up on the proverbial throne?

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#170547: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:44:30 PM

The system only works if people are willing to uphold it.

You get enough people who want to say "screw it" or "Orders are orders" and you don't have a system anymore.

Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#170548: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:45:29 PM

This former CIA member says it makes her physically ill. If she's worried, we should be really worried.
I think it's worth noting that several people in that thread are pointing out that a lot of things like this are going to go unnoticed by people while the Trump administration tries to keep the focus on the Muslim ban. So we have to keep talking about how dangerous Bannon is, and not let any of this slide, either.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170549: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:46:14 PM

[up][up][up] I doubt it, barring serious changes to the way succession works. But I doubt he wants it. He likes being in the position he's currently in - the power behind the throne. The scheming vizier to Trump's buffoonish king.

edited 28th Jan '17 8:46:22 PM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#170550: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:46:18 PM

They're defying the ruling and saying "watcha gonna do?!" To the judges. America is fucked.


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