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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
To tell you the truth, I'm not certain Trump will bother to fight back on this. I see him as caring more about how things look than anything else. So he slapped together a bunch of barely-thought out executive orders in order to be a highly visible attempt at him fulfilling his campaign promises, without really caring about what happened after that- after all, if they get stopped somewhere along the way, he can still say 'I tried to fulfill my campaign promises, but the Evil Establishment wouldn't let me!'
Really? Because according to the ACLU,
it's national.
However, a sobering clarification:
this stay applies only to current airport detainees and those in transit. It does not prevent future travelers from being banned.
edited 28th Jan '17 6:24:20 PM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Noteworthy: according to him, the government cannot put people on planes back to their countries of origin while this stay is in place.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Most likely the Fuhrer and his cronies will try to make it a permanent ban before then.
Which is why the ACLU needs our support, because they're leading the charge against him right now.
Ah, or that. Still horrible and un-American.
edited 28th Jan '17 6:43:48 PM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Not sure if already posted, but Trump rearanged the National Security Counsel to give Steve Bannon a role.
So an evil anarchist white supremacist like Bannon now has a seat at the National Security Council. I...have no words for how terrifying that shit is.
Well, some more good news—a second judge has ordered a temporary restraining order against banning green card holders from the US.
I am pleasantly shocked to see the american political system putting up a fight so quickly.
It's like these first days of Trump's reign made me almost forget at least some politicians have backbones.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."It wasn't just them. A LOT of the electorate doesn't like Trump and as these protests have indicated, have no intention of letting him and the GOP dumpster the country without a fight.
I don't know how but we have to keep that going on for as long as possible and be extremely vigilant about anything they do, because they're going to try and be more and more insidious if they realize that the people aren't letting them get away with being obvious any longer.
The Reps are probably letting Trump get away with as much as they are to make themselves look better by comparison. Then when they depose him and start ruling slightly more sanely we can be like, "Oh thank God Trump's gone." and be somewhat lighter on them. After Trump's cleared the way for them getting whatever they want.
From my very limited observations, it seems that the Alt-Right and affiliated ideologies seem to be consisted of three core groups: the hardcore core of racists who make it all happen in the first place, the clueless people who were duped into this because they genuinely believe that racism/sexism etc are over and that Muslims and immigrants really are detrimental to the US/Europe, and the edgy apathetic types who believe in extreme cynicism and believe that empathy and tolerance are weaknesses that will bite us in the end. Naturally, all three groups kinda blend together past a certain point, and the result is a scary hate-filled and deluded cocktail.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas EdisonFull text of the stay of the ban
EDIT: Someone snuck into the GOP retreat
edited 28th Jan '17 7:32:17 PM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotThe rogue POTUS staff Twitter dudes said as much:
@natinic76 Use #Unholy Trinity appears to want to use POTUS to enact controversial agenda pieces, then let him slip up and impeach him.
Here's a good breakdown of the NYC judge's ruling in layman's terms.
Has this been discussed already? Buried in this
Washington Post article (about what an incredibly frightening week it's been) is this little tidbit:
First thought: I don't trust Chaffetz as far as I can throw him, so he must be working some sort of angle here. Second thought: Fucking hell, we could have used that 2 1/2 months ago.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."

It's only being stayed until the GOP can find a way to enforce it. I'm sure they can figure out a way.