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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170126: Jan 27th 2017 at 10:36:50 AM

[up][up] Interesting...

Say, what do you think of the scenarios between mine and @Marq FJA?

edited 27th Jan '17 10:37:07 AM by Luigisan98

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#170127: Jan 27th 2017 at 10:36:55 AM

New U.S. U.N. envoy warns allies: back us or we'll take names

The new U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, pledged on Friday to overhaul the world body and warned U.S. allies that if they do not support Washington, then she is "taking names" and will respond.

Haley made brief remarks to reporters as she arrived at the world body's headquarters in New York to present her credentials to U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres.

"Our goal with the administration is to show value at the U.N. and the way that we'll show value is to show our strength, show our voice, have the backs of our allies and make sure that our allies have our back as well," Haley said.

"For those that don't have our back, we're taking names, we will make points to respond to that accordingly," added Republican President Donald Trump's U.N. envoy.

Haley, who was South Carolina's Republican governor when Trump picked her for the post, has little foreign policy and no U.S. federal government experience.

French U.N. Ambassador Francois Delattre and British U.N. Ambassador Matthew Rycroft said they looked forward to working with Haley. The United States, Britain and France, along with Russia and China, are permanent veto-wielding members of the U.N. Security Council.

After her meeting with Guterres, a U.S. official said they had "a good and productive conversation about ways they can work together to reform the U.N."

Haley told reporters, "Everything that's working, we're going to make it better, everything that's not working we're going to try and fix, and anything that seems to be obsolete and not necessary we're going to do away with."

According to a draft executive order published by The Daily Beast, Trump wants a committee - including his secretary of state, attorney general and director of national intelligence -to carry out a one-year review of U.S. funding to international organizations with the aim of almost halving voluntary funding.

The United States is the largest contributor to the United Nations, paying 22 percent of the $5.4 billion core U.N. budget and 28 percent of the $7.9 billion U.N. peacekeeping budget. These are assessed contributions - agreed by the U.N. General Assembly - and not voluntary payments.

U.N. agencies, such as the U.N. Development Programme, the children's agency UNICEF, the World Food Programme and the U.N. Population Fund, are funded voluntarily.

Last year, Trump took to Twitter to disparage the 193-member world body after the United States abstained in a Dec. 23 U.N. Security Council vote, allowing the adoption of a resolution demanding an end to settlement building by U.S. ally Israel.

Trump, who had called on President Barack Obama's administration to veto the resolution, warned that "things will be different" at the United Nations after he took office on Jan. 20.

Hear that? That's the sound of former allies laughing.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#170129: Jan 27th 2017 at 10:39:17 AM

I noticed during one of her televised statements this morning she kept referring to it as the "US-United Nations" . Came off a little oddly.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#170130: Jan 27th 2017 at 10:39:41 AM

"In that case, it might be best to move if you're able. I'm starting to consider it."

I'm not really interested in eking out a new life in Sweden or something, where I'll always be an isolated foreign oddity. My life and everyone I know is in New England or scattered across the U.S. Besides, people like Trump will one day come to power all over the world. You can't run from it.

Re: Nikki Haley.

Well, she's an idiot. Were you expecting something different?

edited 27th Jan '17 10:41:02 AM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#170131: Jan 27th 2017 at 10:55:15 AM

So... are we still in the UN? Please tell me we are.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#170132: Jan 27th 2017 at 10:57:08 AM

[up]Yes, but they're trying to vassalize all the other member states by using threats. I'm sure that will go over well.

edited 27th Jan '17 10:57:19 AM by Kayeka

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#170133: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:00:56 AM

We're all gonna die. My own Divided States of America scenario had the budget defaulting in 2013 and leading into an economic meltdown and increasing fascism leading to a devastating civil war in the us, on par with Syria. Looks like it wasn't too far off. sad

edited 27th Jan '17 11:04:13 AM by fruitpork

BrainSewage from that one place Since: Jan, 2001
#170134: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:04:49 AM

[up][up][up][up] Undoubtedly, but it will take longer.

That's the horrific existence to which most of our generation will be doomed: a life of always having to climb to higher and higher ground, even though drowning is inevitable anyway.

How dare you disrupt the sanctity of my soliloquy?
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170135: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:12:33 AM

Cynicism is one thing, but this thread has been warned before about excessive defeatism and doomsaying. It may sound a bit rich coming from me, I admit, but we should probably take it down a notch.

A secret recording obtained by the Washington Post sheds some light onto the GOP's efforts to repeal Obamacare. Sounds like they're having some serious problems, so if nothing else, we can all take comfort in a little schadenfreude.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170136: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:16:39 AM

[up] Indeed man...

Also, did you checked the fan scenarios of a Trump presidency by me and @Marq FJA?

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#170137: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:17:39 AM

Rogue POTUS Staff‏:

Overheard through locked door: "Don't they know I'm the f—- President!?" POTUS displeased at resistance. #resist

POTUS disagreeing with #unholytrinity(Pence, Priebus,Ryan) about vote fraud talk. They say it's losing battle, but POTUS says public needs to see he's popular.

POTUS son-in-law tapped as advisor. Appears Kushner's assignment is to advise POTUS how govt can aid Trump Organization's profit margins.

Current belief is that Bannon attempting to play all sides of all fences, but not fooling anyone in the process.

BrainSewage from that one place Since: Jan, 2001
#170138: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:19:10 AM

[up][up][up] I'll be more careful.

Edit: original post came off more sarcastic than I'd intended.

edited 27th Jan '17 11:23:27 AM by BrainSewage

How dare you disrupt the sanctity of my soliloquy?
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#170139: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:19:35 AM

I'm really drinking up all the schadenfreude. It gets me through the day's news.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#170140: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:20:05 AM

[up][up][up]Here's hoping Trump gets fed up and orders Bannon fired. Out of a cannon. Into the Sun.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170141: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:23:15 AM

[up]A possible puppet kicking out a possible puppeteer? Nice!

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170142: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:24:58 AM

@Luigisan 98: Enough to say with confidence that I seriously hope neither of those situations ever come to pass.

@Brain Sewage: I don't think we need to cut off the pessimism entirely - I just remember some of the mods are tired of this thread getting bogged down in doomsaying.

@Mad Skillz: If we survive, someday someone is going to make one kickass TV drama series out of this whole mess.

@Viper Magnum 357: Sun's too quick. Just pop him into cold space.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#170143: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:31:58 AM

@Luigisan 98: Enough to say with confidence that I seriously hope neither of those situations ever come to pass.
I think he was more interested in a storywriting-based opinion. Like, are there plot holes that require addressing?

Honestly speaking, I wouldn't mind splitting off this fictional story tangent into a World Building thread, but I worry about it becoming unintentional Flame Bait or violating some rule about discussing potentially very controversial fictional scenarios about real-life contemporary politicians.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#170144: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:33:07 AM

[up]That's what I meant man.

Also, what do you think of my scenario?

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#170145: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:33:22 AM

Eh, you can start such a thread. This being a website about storytelling, we give to storytelling issues a wider berth in terms of Flame Bait issues.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#170146: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:42:10 AM
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#170147: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:43:14 AM

One day we'll write a sitcom on Trump's tenure in the West Wing and it will be hilarious.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170148: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:44:51 AM

[up][up] Hell, if that actually goes through (remember, both the Wisconsin GOP and the national GOP will try to stop it and preserve their gerrymandering), I'd call it a major victory.

Now, let's all take a moment out of our days to point and laugh at the Orange Toddler: in a photo hanging in the White House of himself with Obama, he photoshopped his hand to look bigger.

Cue barrage of Uncle Jack jokes in 3...2...1...

edited 27th Jan '17 11:44:56 AM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#170149: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:46:21 AM

Rogue POTUS Staff‏:

Overheard through locked door: "Don't they know I'm the f—- President!?" POTUS displeased at resistance. #resist

POTUS disagreeing with #unholytrinity(Pence, Priebus,Ryan) about vote fraud talk. They say it's losing battle, but POTUS says public needs to see he's popular.

POTUS son-in-law tapped as advisor. Appears Kushner's assignment is to advise POTUS how govt can aid Trump Organization's profit margins.

Current belief is that Bannon attempting to play all sides of all fences, but not fooling anyone in the process.

Oh Trump, not even a week in and you're already having a taste of what you'll have to deal for the next 4 years.

Trump still thinks he is popular, half of the country already despises him, but no his ego won't let him accept that he is hated.

More evidence how Trump is going to treat the US as his personal piggy bank

Bannon thinks he is Little Finger but reality doesn't have plot armour, I hope he gets canned before he can do more harm.

Inter arma enim silent leges
RabidTanker God-Mayor of Sim-Kind Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#170150: Jan 27th 2017 at 11:48:58 AM

@114: It'll only be hilarious until he does something extreme. Like trying to start another war or nuking an country because of racism.

Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break

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