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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#170076: Jan 27th 2017 at 7:17:26 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u825Ebs6k2E

I should keep that clip ready....I have the feeling that I will have a lot of use for it in the future, especially now that the US president has started to quote comic book movie villains....as a reminder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI3MARgU0s8

edited 27th Jan '17 7:19:01 AM by Swanpride

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#170078: Jan 27th 2017 at 7:26:14 AM

@Brain Sewage: Au contraire, mon frere:

Demonstrators flood the streets of Philadelphia

Washinton's New Normal- A Trump Protest A-Day

Hundreds march in Evanston, Chicago to protest Trump

Protesters gather in New York as fear grows over Trump's immigration plans

Cities are declaring themselves sanctuaries, government workers are setting up rogue twitter accounts, the entire top-tier of the State Department just resigned, and scientists are planning a march.

And i can assure you from my own personal experience that, at the local level, people are starting to organize things behind the scenes. Not just protests but lobbying networks and campaigns to elect people to office.

Things are happening. We may all look back at this and realize that this is when the progressive movement in America really organized itself and took off.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#170079: Jan 27th 2017 at 7:26:30 AM

[up]x5 A bit premature to declare "ABANDON ALL HOPE!" I think. Any by "a bit" I mean I might consider seriously thinking about it if things go downhill for the next...fifty years or so. Because I believe that while a battle may of been lost, the war never ends and one way or another humanity will survive.

edited 27th Jan '17 7:26:44 AM by Falrinn

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170080: Jan 27th 2017 at 7:29:29 AM

It's true. There are valid concerns about how much of it will translate into concrete action - but the Women's March was the single biggest mass protest in US history. (And it wasn't just national, it was global.) And as [up][up] points out, the protests continue in cities across the country.

Even in my little city, people are organizing. There's a local Indivisable chapter, and a grassroots movement to try and unseat our scumbag Congressman.

As cynical as I've been, I don't think the American people are taking this one lying down.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#170081: Jan 27th 2017 at 7:33:20 AM

I'd note that with the State Department they didn't truly resign so much as we're fired. They have to offer their resignation to every new president, but normally the resignation is refused (as it had been several times with the top level officials), all of them were accepted this time. It's unclear if that's because Trump wants to put him own people in and dam institutional knowledge, or if he and his team just didn't know that such resignations are a formality that aren't meant to rob accepted.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#170082: Jan 27th 2017 at 7:34:48 AM

More likely the former than the latter.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170083: Jan 27th 2017 at 7:42:46 AM

ThinkProgress has catalogued all of the events (read: horrible shit) that has happened since Trump's inauguration, with the intention of making it easier to keep track of. A lot of people are theorizing that the sudden, overwhelming burst of scandals and terrible proposals is entirely deliberate, intended to confuse people and make it harder for anyone to keep track of what's going on. This is meant to counteract that.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#170084: Jan 27th 2017 at 8:36:41 AM

As I said before, Trump is basically a giant smoke screen. In a way the protesters focus on the wrong target.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#170085: Jan 27th 2017 at 8:39:40 AM

Trump will bring other Republicans down with him. We can't play the "blame Congress" game because that's an exceeding complex and multifaceted target. Nuance is useless in political warfare. The Republians captured the House and Senate by capitalizing on disappointment in Obama, we will have to do the same with Trump.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#170086: Jan 27th 2017 at 8:42:38 AM

I really hope the EU refuses to accept that jackass as Ambassador if he gets send.

He's clearly not acting in good faith.

edited 27th Jan '17 8:45:35 AM by 3of4

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use political terms to describe, not insult
#170087: Jan 27th 2017 at 8:44:02 AM
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#170088: Jan 27th 2017 at 8:53:28 AM

Trade War! Huh! What is it good for? (Absolutely nothing)

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#170089: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:01:22 AM

Legal experts are saying the federal government has the right to sue people who posted on official government social media accounts without permission.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#170090: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:02:34 AM

Trump's likely EU Ambassador would love for it to go away

A direct quote from him.

"Well, I had in a previous career a diplomatic post where I helped bring down the Soviet Union. So maybe there's another Union that needs a little taming."

2016-2020/2024 is going to earn an unflattering nickname by historians isn't it?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#170091: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:06:53 AM

Probably. In my setting it's called the "Antropospora era" but that term would not apply in real life, most likely...

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#170092: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:10:17 AM

[up][up] If there are still historians with the freedom to give that time period an unflattering name, yes. Otherwise, either a global thermonuclear war or a natural disaster (probably caused or accelerated by Trump and Putin's refusal to lift a finger to do anything about anthropogenic climate change) would have wiped out humanity, or their fascistic replacements will celebrate it as the death of democracy and the rebirth of fascism.

edited 27th Jan '17 9:13:16 AM by TrashJack

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170093: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:12:26 AM

Well now.

Remember how the Trump intel dossier said that he was offered a 19% share in Rosneft in exchange for lifting the sanctions?

Well, he's "considering" lifting the sanctions...

...and a 19.5% stake in Rosneft was just sold to some anonymous person.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#170094: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:14:10 AM

[up][up][up]What happens in your setting?

edited 27th Jan '17 9:20:01 AM by LinkToTheFuture

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170095: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:15:11 AM

Addendum: Okay, upon doing a little more searching it's possible that that stake in Rosneft was sold to Glencore and QIA.

Or not. Massive corporate stake sales are a little over my head, I confess.

edited 27th Jan '17 9:17:12 AM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#170096: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:21:46 AM

Bringing up an old topic... Has there been any further news about this? I don't remember anyone mentioning if the Democrats involved had revealed what it is that they had discovered from the briefing that pissed them off so much.

@Septimus Heap: What does "Anthropospora" mean?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#170097: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:25:18 AM

[up] Not a word. Whatever they learned is highly classified for sure. Which has done nothing to sway my opinion that the people need to know anyway, but hey, it's not like anything's at stake, right?

McCain says that Trump shouldn't try to life the Russia sanctions, and if he does, McCain will work to sign them into law to prevent him from doing so.

I'll say the same thing to him that I said to Graham - prove it. We all saw how he voted on Tillerson.

edited 27th Jan '17 9:25:48 AM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#170098: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:33:24 AM

[up][up] Anthropo- is a prefix meaning of or relating to humans, -spora being a suffix that refers to seeds or sporal qualities; presumably it's intended to evoke "diaspora".

As far as Trump's tarrif plans go, we'll have to see what happens; considering the disparity in hard power, it's entirely possible this will escalate to the point where the American military is garrisoning the border, since there's no way in hell I can see Trump backing down, and it's all but guaranteed if Mexican leaders think Trump really will start a war that they'll come to an agreement. Forcing Mexico to pay for the wall at gunpoint is...not going to be very conducive to continued international stability however. In fact, it would basically signal a return to the geopolitical landscape of the 19th century.

edited 27th Jan '17 9:38:57 AM by CaptainCapsase

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#170099: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:36:27 AM

It's a work of fiction, but Capsase's translation is correct anyhow.

Basically, fictional infectious disease that caused a major epidemic thanks to the American healthcare system being crippled by the Trump presidency. While very non-lethal by itself, it did cause the US economy to implode and the name stuck to the time.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#170100: Jan 27th 2017 at 9:37:40 AM

[up] I would consider it more evocative of humans leaving the Earth and colonizing other worlds personally.


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