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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#169951: Jan 26th 2017 at 5:55:49 PM

@whitehouseleak2 is a new incarnation of the alleged White House Leak Twitter account that was shut down earlier.

Guess the resistance continues.

In somewhat surreal news, Ed Miliband and Tory backbenchers have joined forces to warn Theresa May about Trump. There was a time when Tories wouldn't be seen dead joining forces with Ed over anything. They're all very worried about her acting like things with the US are normal when they so obviously aren't.

edited 26th Jan '17 5:56:59 PM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#169952: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:02:02 PM

@fruitpork: Really? Got a link to that story? I'm curious as to the details.

Have we talked about this shit yet? The director of the National Parks Service was ordered by the Fuhrer to produce pictures of the inauguration that backed up his utterly fraudulent claims as to crowd size.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#169954: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:09:29 PM

Damn. Oh well.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
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Asgore Adopts Noelle
#169955: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:12:11 PM

Trump delays "Voter Fraud" Order, House Oversight Committee will not be involved. Well, there's Congressional Republicans having a spine against Trump... Enjoy it for a Couple of days I guess...

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#169956: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:12:35 PM

So Shia LaBeouf did get arrested over a scuffle during his live stream. No idea as to what exactly happened to cause it, though.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#169957: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:12:54 PM

Well, some positivity: I don't think this was even mentioned, but there are mass anti-Trump protests in Philadelphia happening even after the conclusion of the Women's March.

[up][up] Chaffetz? Displaying a spine and integrity? Will wonders never cease.

Covering his own ass in some way, no doubt. Or just putting up the usual song-and-dance of independence before caving in like all the rest.

edited 26th Jan '17 6:14:27 PM by RBluefish

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Asgore Adopts Noelle
#169958: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:13:39 PM

[up] I hear they're also happening in New York, Washington DC and California.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#169959: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:18:52 PM

The thing with Shia Le Bouf getting arrested. The video of Shia shouting down the Nazi that got into his face still felt like Shia was going to deck him or wanted to, and since Shia is kinda crazy, I give him a lot of credit with not actually decking the Nazi.

This time, something must've pushed him over the edge.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#169960: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:30:31 PM

Cracked wrote an article that presents arguments and counterarguments to "punching Nazis". It's written intertwined with comedy - whether one likes or not the style there - but I feel like it provides a good view on the subject. "Katie", the side opposing "punching Nazis", words her thoughts better than I've done so far when pondering about the subject. However, there's a Jewish joke in the middle and dogs pooping, and people might take offense to that? I honestly can't tell right now. I better go to sleep. So, anyways, here's the link.

ctrl_alt_deliiiight Dump Stat from where memes go to die Since: Jan, 2017
Dump Stat
#169961: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:54:26 PM

Captain America summed up my opinion on this matter pretty well.

http://i.imgur.com/jAkyK46

edited 26th Jan '17 6:54:41 PM by ctrl_alt_deliiiight

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#169962: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:56:27 PM

Punching them isn't denying them their rights. Punching nazis is also the thing that Captain America is most famously in favour of.

ctrl_alt_deliiiight Dump Stat from where memes go to die Since: Jan, 2017
Dump Stat
#169963: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:58:03 PM

True, true.

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Lost in Space
#169964: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:58:15 PM

There is a general right to be secure in one's person and possessions, and someone saying hateful propaganda contributes to a hostile environment in which harmful acts are more likely to be committed against the target of that hate.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
optimusjamie Since: Jun, 2010
#169965: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:58:20 PM

Meanwhile, Captain America sums up my thoughts on the matter here.

Direct all enquiries to Jamie B Good
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#169966: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:58:32 PM

I kind of disagree. I think there's quite good reason to consider Nazism an unacceptable belief. It's just that freedom of speech means that they have a right to express those beliefs. And you can't punch them (well, you can, but it's illegal). To the extent that the panel seems to suggest that Nazism is just one of many beliefs competing in a marketplace of ideas, I disagree.

And besides, Captain America is currently a Nazi in the comics...

edited 26th Jan '17 6:59:09 PM by Hodor2

ctrl_alt_deliiiight Dump Stat from where memes go to die Since: Jan, 2017
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#169967: Jan 26th 2017 at 6:59:59 PM

Since when!? Damn it, this is why I prefer DC.

edited 26th Jan '17 7:00:16 PM by ctrl_alt_deliiiight

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Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#169968: Jan 26th 2017 at 7:01:25 PM

I don't know...the Germans banned Nazism outright and are running a much better functioning republic. And Athens back in the day used to screen people for oligarchical sympathies.
That said, I have no idea of any fair way of how societies go about deciding "we do not discuss this."

[down]Not quite how that was meant to sound. More like the Germans haven't fallen down a slippery slope into virtually banning freedom of expression. Though history has certainly helped them understand that they have a republic if they can keep it more than any other.

edited 26th Jan '17 7:16:38 PM by CenturyEye

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ctrl_alt_deliiiight Dump Stat from where memes go to die Since: Jan, 2017
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#169969: Jan 26th 2017 at 7:03:05 PM

The banning of Nazism and being a well-functioning republic probably aren't related.

[down]Didn't know there was a second one. Man, I need to catch up.

edited 26th Jan '17 7:05:05 PM by ctrl_alt_deliiiight

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Nurse Mordred Attending
#169970: Jan 26th 2017 at 7:03:34 PM

[up][up][up] Red Skull brainwashed him via Cosmic Cube. He also masterminded Civil War II.

edited 26th Jan '17 7:04:02 PM by Xorn15

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The Wanderer
#169971: Jan 26th 2017 at 7:10:09 PM

There's something ironic in how the reason that was given for not allowing people whose first citizenship wasn't American to become President was that they'd be too open to foreign influence, only for us to get a native-born President who's almost certainly compromised by a foreign power.

edited 26th Jan '17 7:11:26 PM by rmctagg09

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#169972: Jan 26th 2017 at 7:11:34 PM

[up][up][up]Pretty sure they're directly related. Like, after WWII, they went 'whelp, let's make super certain that nonsense never happens again' and then they made sure that nonsense never happened again, and then they continued to function properly. And now they're one of the few democracies that appears to be effectively resisting the current wave of right-wing insanity.

The line of casualty's pretty clear.

edited 26th Jan '17 7:12:59 PM by Gilphon

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#169973: Jan 26th 2017 at 7:24:54 PM

While I have zero sympathy for any Nazis getting punched, I'd personally stop short of advocating for their non-metaphoical punching unless they've crossed the line where punching them constitutes self-defense. Moral high ground, not giving the enemy ammunition ("see, they're violent and dangerous and crackdowns are neccecary!"), yadda yadda.

ctrl_alt_deliiiight Dump Stat from where memes go to die Since: Jan, 2017
Dump Stat
#169974: Jan 26th 2017 at 7:26:15 PM

[up][up]Resisting a certain trend in politics has no effect on how well the government functions. A functioning democracy is built on careful planning and a good foundation.

edited 26th Jan '17 7:27:54 PM by ctrl_alt_deliiiight

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#169975: Jan 26th 2017 at 7:32:18 PM

Trump administration has stopped ads and emails regarding the January 31st deadline for signing up for the ACA.

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