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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#169826: Jan 26th 2017 at 10:46:07 AM

[up] Which will lead up to stealth sabotage, and in case if nobody is caught doing it, it will result either in Trump giving up on it or WORSE, a war against Mexico...

edited 26th Jan '17 10:46:17 AM by Luigisan98

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#169827: Jan 26th 2017 at 10:49:01 AM

[up]As bad as that would be, look on the bright side; at least they'd have a shot at getting Texas back.tongue

edited 26th Jan '17 10:49:17 AM by kkhohoho

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#169828: Jan 26th 2017 at 10:50:09 AM

[up] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToHgI9cBnZk

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#169829: Jan 26th 2017 at 10:51:14 AM

[up][up] More likely, Texas will be reclaimed by the Democrats, who will see just how bad their Economy gets without Hispanics in their midst.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#169830: Jan 26th 2017 at 10:52:02 AM

I can see this years from now, from some leader in another country:

"Mr. Trump, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL."

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#169831: Jan 26th 2017 at 10:53:14 AM

[up] Maybe Venezuela or Latin America as whole? evil grin

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#169832: Jan 26th 2017 at 10:54:52 AM

Presumably it would already be stealth sabotage. Is there any other kind? You'd have to be pretty brazen to try to sabotage it openly.

But we assume the sabotage will be effective. If security is tight enough and they're willing to shoot the occasional Standing Rock-style protestor, that wall's going up.

Best shot at stopping it once the go-ahead is given is local government refusing to play ball. California, for example. They're going to have a hell of a time getting California to agree to construct their part of the wall.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#169833: Jan 26th 2017 at 11:10:40 AM

Meanwhile John Boehner continues to be the luckiest Republican alive.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#169835: Jan 26th 2017 at 11:27:29 AM

Unsurprisingly, Trump favors doing away with the filibuster if the democrats attempt to obstruct him; this is why I'm still talking about bipartisanship in a time like this; the democrats are completely powerless right now without the support of at least 7 Republican senators, and due to the sheer number of democrat held senate seats up for grabs in 2018, there's every possibility that situation will get worse in the midterms.

If we cannot get through to at least some Republican lawmakers, there's no way of stopping Trump.

edited 26th Jan '17 11:29:02 AM by CaptainCapsase

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#169836: Jan 26th 2017 at 11:47:46 AM

If we're bringing levity: Say what you want against Cruz, but at least he tweets better than Trump.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#169837: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:01:09 PM

[up][up] We couldn't get through to the Republicans (by way of bending over backward to compromise with them) for the past 8 years. I have absolutely no confidence in our ability to get through to them now that they have all of the power and none of the responsibility. As such, I have absolutely no confidence in our ability to stop Trump.

edited 26th Jan '17 12:11:03 PM by TrashJack

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#169838: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:13:55 PM

Bannon says that the media is "the opposition" who should "keep its mouth shut.

edited 26th Jan '17 12:14:22 PM by LinkToTheFuture

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#169839: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:15:09 PM

He's not wrong about them being opposition. The media is the opposition to the propaganda machine they're attempting to build. In the same way that reality is the opposition.

edited 26th Jan '17 12:15:41 PM by Gilphon

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#169840: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:15:33 PM

WASHINGTON — Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s chief White House strategist, laced into the American press during an interview on Wednesday evening, arguing that news organizations had been “humiliated” by an election outcome few anticipated, and repeatedly describing the media as “the opposition party” of the current administration.

“The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for awhile,” Mr. Bannon said during a telephone call.

“I want you to quote this,” Mr. Bannon added. “The media here is the opposition party. They don’t understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States.”

The scathing assessment — delivered by one of Mr. Trump’s most trusted and influential advisers, in the first days of his presidency — comes at a moment of high tension between the news media and the administration, with skirmishes over the size of Mr. Trump’s inaugural crowd and the president’s false claims that millions of illegal votes by undocumented immigrants swayed the popular vote against him.

Mr. Bannon, who rarely grants interviews to journalists outside of Breitbart News, the provocative right-wing website he ran until last August, was echoing comments by Mr. Trump this weekend, when the president said he was in “a running war” with the media and called journalists “among the most dishonest people on earth.”

During a call to discuss Sean M. Spicer, the president’s press secretary, Mr. Bannon ratcheted up the criticism, offering a broad indictment of the news media as biased against Mr. Trump and out of touch with the American public. That’s an argument familiar to readers of Breitbart and followers of Trump-friendly personalities like Sean Hannity.

“The elite media got it dead wrong, 100 percent dead wrong,” Mr. Bannon said of the election, calling it “a humiliating defeat that they will never wash away, that will always be there.”

“The mainstream media has not fired or terminated anyone associated with following our campaign,” Mr. Bannon said. “Look at the Twitter feeds of those people: they were outright activists of the Clinton campaign.” (He did not name specific reporters or editors.)

“That’s why you have no power,” Mr. Bannon added. “You were humiliated.”

Of all of Mr. Trump’s advisers in the White House, Mr. Bannon is the one tasked with implementing the nationalist vision that Mr. Trump channeled during the later months of the campaign, one that stemmed from Mr. Bannon himself. And in many ways Mr. Trump’s first week has put into action that vision — from the description of “American Carnage’’ Mr. Trump laid out in his inauguration speech, to a series of executive actions outlining policy on trade agreements, immigration, the building of a border wall and the demands that Mexico pay for it.

Bannon is the one running the US. Trump is his and Putin's puppet.

[nja]

edited 26th Jan '17 12:15:54 PM by MadSkillz

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#169841: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:17:36 PM

Rand Paul Introduces his ObamaCare Replacement: It's essentially Pre-ObamaCare, but with no Discrimination against those with Pre-Existing Conditions (plus the Usual BS about Health Insurance over State lines and such).

This is worse then the other Plan, Paul!

edited 26th Jan '17 12:18:08 PM by DingoWalley1

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#169842: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:21:22 PM

Bannon is almost certainly the mastermind behind the Putinesque techniques being deployed by the Trump Administratioin to manipulate the media, and perhaps behind most of the surprisingly devious moves made by Trump.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#169843: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:22:54 PM

@Luigi: Right wing mobs are a form of mass mobilization. We may disagree with them, but from their point of view we're the mob.

Historically, violence doesnt play well with American voters. Let them beat us- we will endure it all the way to the voting booth, and into office.

I favor a no concession policy toward the Republican Congress, but we have to do all we can to reach out to as many voters as possible, in l those who voted for Trump.

edited 26th Jan '17 12:23:17 PM by DeMarquis

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#169844: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:28:04 PM

Well, much as I hate to admit it, he's not incorrect that too many media outlets were thinking it was a foregone conclusion that Hillary was going to win, and that was a big mistake.

That said, it's clear what dangerous game he's trying to play here: Discredit ALL media, regardless of whether they participated in this "don't take Trump seriously" reporting, and want America to only listen to Trump. And round it off with some Breitbart, Info Wars (which, incidentally, claims to have gotten WH credentials passes but the WH denies), and Fox News. aka The Ministry of Truth.

edited 26th Jan '17 12:37:58 PM by speedyboris

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#169845: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:57:46 PM

Trump is saying he wants to impose a 20 percent tax on Mexican imports to pay for the border wall per CNN

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#169846: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:58:25 PM

So Americans are gonna pay for his vanity project.

What a fucking surprise.

edited 26th Jan '17 12:58:36 PM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#169847: Jan 26th 2017 at 12:59:27 PM

NAFTA is so dead.

I just hope Ottawa and Mexico City have the courage to make the US suffer along with us.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#169848: Jan 26th 2017 at 1:00:29 PM

[up] Why bother? We'll be suffering enough, won't we?

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#169849: Jan 26th 2017 at 1:00:55 PM

Fuck Bannon. I sincerely hope he dies.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#169850: Jan 26th 2017 at 1:01:59 PM

but let's take a look at the top 10 imports from Mexico:

1. Vehicles: $74.9 billion

2. Electronic equipment: $62.9 billion

3. Machinery: $49 billion

4. Oil: $14 billion

5. Medical, technical equipment: $12.2 billion

6. Furniture, lighting, signs: $10.8 billion

7. Vegetables: $5.5 billion

8. Fruits, nuts: $5.4 billion

9. Gems, precious metals: $5.1 billion

10. Plastics: $4.8 billion

edited 26th Jan '17 1:02:28 PM by TacticalFox88

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