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iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#169726: Jan 26th 2017 at 1:55:06 AM

It would likely depend on the region.

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#169727: Jan 26th 2017 at 1:55:49 AM

Hmm, Californian cops vs New Arizona cops or something like that?

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iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#169728: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:01:31 AM

Hopefully we never have to find out.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#169729: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:02:18 AM

I'd also like to throw out the notion that having voted for someone does not by default entail that you'll do whatever they ask you to do.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#169730: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:06:59 AM

You're gonna see a patchwork of sides.

Just know that the cities in the red states will revolt and the rural counties in blue states will revolt.

You thought the Civil War was brother versus brother but the new one would actually be brothers versus brothers and parents versus children

edited 26th Jan '17 2:08:05 AM by MadSkillz

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#169731: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:11:33 AM

[up] So you're saying that even cities and counties themselves will separate for their own fight?

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iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#169732: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:17:15 AM

I doubt we will have a civil war. One or two insurrections might occur when the republicans start cracking down on protests and free speech, but they would be put down violently. Then people will be to scared to rise up against the government.

edited 26th Jan '17 2:18:36 AM by iflewaway

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#169733: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:21:02 AM

[up] I doubt it, not even the military will dare to crackdown against their own citizens.

Is it easy to assume that you believe the GOP will make the US a single-party state?

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iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#169734: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:31:28 AM

Crackdowns against protesters are already becoming increasingly violent. It's only a matter of time before they start using outright lethal means, especially if an actual uprising were to occur. Also, I don't think that the US will become a single party state, at least not for a while, but the republicans will do everything they can to ensure they will win the election.

Hate to be a page topper, but I guess I don't have much of a choice...

edited 26th Jan '17 2:43:16 AM by iflewaway

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#169735: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:35:11 AM

And the military is relatively easily dealt with as a threat to power. Just send them off to get bogged down and die in a Middle East country of dubious geopolitical benefit.

What are they going to do, not go?

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#169736: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:37:39 AM

Now that I think about it, a civil war could occur if an anti-Trump faction of the military attempted a Coup d'état, but it seems rather unlikely, although it is unwise to rule out anything anymore.

edited 26th Jan '17 2:38:27 AM by iflewaway

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#169737: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:39:01 AM

[up]I grew up in a place where the military regularly cracked down on the people the government pointed them at. Even their own race. It can happen anywhere. No place is special enough to be above that.

Heck, I've lived in several places that can and do do that. South Africa, the UK, Switzerland and Japan. Only one is a Third World country.

But, in all honesty, I don't see Civil War II: Electric Boogaloo. I see Civil Rights II: Bigger, Harder, Stronger.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#169738: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:39:31 AM

Trump white house senior staff have private RNC email accounts.

Trump has EMAILS! Now he is a threat to national security

edited 26th Jan '17 2:40:17 AM by IFwanderer

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Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#169739: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:44:24 AM

There are multiple fracture points already in sight.

The most immediate are KXL and DAPL protests, which could end in a wide spectrum of results, ranging from harassed, to beaten, to imprisoned, to dead.

Then there is the continued issue of police brutality and racism, and the desire to label BLM as militants or domestic terrorists.

Then there is the nature of implementing a deportation force, the overly wide nets it would inevitably cast, and the potential for "temporary relocation facilities."

Then there are the voter fraud lies, which could be the gateway to massive voter suppression and disenfranchisement.

And that's just some domestic issues. Given how the right-wing continues to be defined by massive amounts of projection, I don't want to see how a Vietnam draft-dodger treats anti-war protesters.

edited 26th Jan '17 2:46:14 AM by Eschaton

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#169740: Jan 26th 2017 at 2:46:35 AM

You mean...an insurgency in the US?

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iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
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#169741: Jan 26th 2017 at 3:03:56 AM

[up] There is no reason why one can't happen, especially with the extremely lax gun laws in most states. Actually, one is almost guaranteed to happen, although it wouldn't succeed and would just make things worse.

edited 26th Jan '17 3:06:25 AM by iflewaway

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#169744: Jan 26th 2017 at 3:27:18 AM

Meh, inexperienced president is inexperienced. However, managing a crisis situation is the brass tacks, the media circus not so much.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#169745: Jan 26th 2017 at 3:30:25 AM

Finland, ever copying successful humour (often failing in it), also welcomes Donald Trump in his own words.

DEAR President Trump,

You should travel to Finland.

Yes, that’s a pretty blunt way to put it, but you seem to be the kind of person who appreciates the art of blunt expressions. In that sense you have much in common with the Finns. No small talk, no fancy words, we like it that way.

I know you have the policy of America first, America first, America first, but eventually you need to travel overseas, because that’s what presidents do, and I’m sure you want to look presidential. So the first country you should travel to is Finland. That’s Finland in Europe, way up north there.

Why Finland? Because Finland is the best country in the world. The best. It’s no fake news – we have statistics to prove it. Have a look at this list compiled by Statistics Finland. We have some great statisticians in Finland. So great.

The list is a collection of international surveys that show Finland being the most stable country, the safest country and the country with the best governance, the best media freedom, the most independent judiciary and the best social development in the whole world.

Don’t get me wrong. I do think America is great. What I’m saying is that as you are making America even greater, Finland could give you one or two pointers in terms of developing strong rule of law, independent media or equal society, if that’s the sort of thing you are interested in.

But there’s other stuff in Finland too. Great stuff. I tell you this about Finland: no-one knows better how to deal with the Russians. No-one. Wars, bullying, spying, no matter what, we just deal with it. Back in the days of the Cold War the Russians went as far as to interfere in our democratic elections and hand-pick the president we were going to have – and we just kept on doing business with them. Amazing story, and sounds so familiar these days.

It’s been bumpy at times, I’ll be honest with you. We didn’t like it when the Russians tried to invade us. So we stopped them. Finland is a country that does not like to be invaded. And then we did something else: Finland invaded the Soviet Union. That was really something, Finland being so small and the Soviet Union being so huge, but at the time we had this idea of making Finland great again.

True, we could not have done it without help from the Nazis, and in the end it came to nothing. But how many countries can say they invaded the Soviet Union? Not many. America didn’t.

I’m not saying you should invade Russia – please don’t. Okay? Just saying we have some 1 340 kilometers (832 miles) of border with Russia, and here we are, strong and independent, having a party. And mind you, no wall!

There was no way the Russians were going to pay for it.

Even today we have someone who knows better than anyone else how to deal with Russia. That’s our President, Mr. Sauli Niinistö.

President Niinistö is a great contact for you, you two should definitely hook up. He is so close to President Vladimir Putin of Russia. They call, they chat, they meet. Putin just came over to Finland in the summer, and this year Niinistö is going to meet him at least twice. Some folks don’t see their Mom that often.

Niinistö reportedly told you personally over telephone, Mr President, that he has a ”somewhat exceptional relationship” with Putin. Whatever that means, we’d also like to know, but I’m sure President Niinistö is someone you should meet if you want get your head around Putin.

And Niinistö likes Twitter too, although he’s so much more boring than you.

So there are so many reasons to come to Finland. And I’m not even finished yet.

Now, I’m going to say something about popular vote. I know it’s a topic you don’t like to hear discussed. But it’s OK, it’s not only you, it happens to everyone, or at least it happens to many democratically elected leaders. Some voters do go for the other candidate.

Even our President Niinistö had that. It was not quite as bad as with you and Hillary, I mean she got so many more votes than you. But a few years ago Niinistö had it tough. He was running against a gay environmentalist with a special interest in making peace in Africa. That man was so popular in Finland, big time. So some voters went for Niinistö, some for the gay environmentalist with a special interest in making peace in Africa. Our nation was divided.

But look at President Niinistö now! His approval ratings are almost 90 per cent. I think only the North Korean leader would get better numbers than that if they did approval ratings in North Korea. See my point? President Niinistö could surely give you one or two ideas on how to become the president for everyone. People’s president.

Of course, I haven’t stated the obvious yet. Finnish women are great. They are so great. You should have seen them on the march the other day. The crowd was huge.

You are no stranger to Finland. Remember 1992? Your business in Atlantic City had gone to the rocks and so had your marriage with Ivana. You came to Finland with Marla Maples to buy a ship. So sorry that deal did not happen. But everyone deserves a second chance, don’t you think, and so does Finland. We still build ships, big ones, if you or your sons are interested. How about Trump Cruises? Just floating an idea.

One last thing I want to say. President Barack Obama never made it to Finland. He did Sweden, he even did Estonia. But in eight years he never visited the best country in the world with the most popular president, who knows how to deal with Russia.

I’ve got a feeling you want to be everything Obama was not.

So, Mr President, when you do come to Finland, I’d suggest summer time. Much better, much less slush. And I heard Putin might be coming in the summer too.

No need to call in advance, just give us a tweet.

edited 26th Jan '17 3:32:07 AM by TerminusEst

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#169746: Jan 26th 2017 at 3:36:41 AM

House Republicans: Y'all are moving too slow, kill the fillabuster! Senate Republicans: This is how we've always worked.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
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#169748: Jan 26th 2017 at 4:03:06 AM

[up]They have been evil for a very long time, They just have the power to finally enact their will.

edited 26th Jan '17 4:06:49 AM by iflewaway

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#169749: Jan 26th 2017 at 4:08:20 AM

[up]Even then, their reign will not last long.

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justhelping Since: Dec, 2016
#169750: Jan 26th 2017 at 4:24:49 AM

How's everyone doing this fine morning?


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