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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Which is why we need to stop reaching to make excuses for this Fourth Reich and start looking at what's happening. Mass arrests of protestors and reporters isn't just an honest mistake, it's the government very clearly sending a message to any future protestors and reporters. The Fuhrer ordering an investigation into utterly groundless claims of massive voter fraud isn't just Trump being Trump - it's them preparing to do away with free elections and ensure they remain in power forever. Trump threatening to "send in the feds" to one of the country's biggest cities cannot be handwaved away with "well he might just mean more investigators or aid workers." It must be heard as what it's clearly meant as - "I will send in troops to occupy this city if you don't do what I say."
Rule One: Believe the autocrat.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Also, I gotta say, this is exactly what he meant when he called himself the "law and order candidate" - a chlling appellation if ever there was one, provided that you know what buzzwords mean (basically, police state time in this case). Seriously, that sounds like some eastern Europe autocrat bullshit. Hell, it sounds like the name of one of their parties.
Welcome to the Free American Empire. Your stay will not be pleasant.
Live factchecking? On my 24 hour cable news? Perish the thought!
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotOkay, I'm going to make this post so people can bookmark it, so that ANY time someone claims that Trump isn't a fascist you can slap them down with facts.
Here you have the 14 defining characteristics of Fascism
Point 1:
Donald Trump declared his Inauguration Day a “national day of patriotic devotion”
Point 2:
Trump Listed as Human Rights Threat By Watchdog for his politics of Intolerance
Point 3
Trump expected to order ban on refugees
Point 4:
[[quoteblock]]Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
Donald Trump announces plans for military parades in major US cities after he becomes President
Trump wants defense spending increased
Trump administration deletes apology to LGBT people over government discrimination
Trump bans federal funding for foreign NGOs that support abortion
Trump Congratulates Fox News on Ratings, Slams ‘Fake News CNN’ on Twitter
Trump Escalating War with the Press
Donald Trump to order Mexico wall in national security crackdown
Trump has a vision of religion in America
Trump's Promises to Corporate Leaders: Lower Taxes and Fewer Regulations
Trump Administration Restricts News from Federal Scientists at USDA, EPA
All References to Climate Change Have Been Deleted From the White House Website
Trump says he'll send the Feds if Chicago doesn't fix it's rampant carnage
Donald Trump has assembled the worst Cabinet in American history
Trump calls for Major Investigation in Voter fraud
Welcome to a Brave New World, comrades.
New Survey coming this weekend!
We were warned. We were warned, but we didn't listen. Whether our nation ever recovers from this or not, the people who saw what was coming and were ignored are going to go down in history as The Cassandra for sure.
Some information on what Net Neutrality is, why it's in danger, and how we can try to save it.
I think people who really want to cling to him will sidestep that from "Trump isn't a Fascist" to "Fascism is exactly what we need to put down those minorities and women. They've gotten too full of themselves and it's time they paid the price." The rest . . . well, they'll cite no good opposition candidates existing.
Hilary could have been good, or really really bad for us. Not in herself, but in the consequences of having her as President. The only way an HRC presidency would have worked without giving us a future superTrump would have been if she was able to demonstrably fix the major problems in the country, right down to addressing the political issues that led to Trump, and causing the hardcore altrighters to get so infuriated that they outright broke laws and gave us a perfect excuse/reason to see them all locked up or executed on the spot. And that wasn't going to happen.
Can you imagine another Trump running in a U.S. that already had strict gun control to the point where nobody but the criminals can carry something that might, possibly, make a soldier or cop think twice about getting into a shootout?
Republicans reveal their big plan to replace the ACA
: They will allow States 3 Options - To keep ObamaCare, to create their own plan without Federal Assistance, or to have no replacement at all and no Federal Assistance.
(Facepalm)
Something from my local paper
Idaho Democratic leader takes heat for Black Lives Matter comments
First few paragraphs:
Brown, responding to a question from moderator Joy-Ann Reid of MSNBC, said Democrats have failed minorities and people of color and need to “accept there is prejudice” within the party. Speaking as a “white woman” who doesn’t “get it,” she said her job was to was to “shut other white people down when they want to say, oh, no, I’m not prejudiced; I’m a Democrat.”
Right-leaning media outlets seized on the “shut other white people down” part of her comment to attack her and the party.
edited 25th Jan '17 8:05:11 AM by sgamer82
Yeah, let's hear it for this Sally Brown, right? We need more Dems who understand these issues, and who get that people of color are their real core base, not the much-vaunted "white working class."
Despair is dangerous, but so is complacency. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Right now, I see no reason to think that we're somehow special and will avoid the rise of fascism. We're certainly doing a piss-poor job of it right now.
Yeah, we got a really big protest a few days ago, and that was great. But there were really big protests against the Nazis too. Look how that turned out. Protests aren't enough.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Nick Offlerman
, Memetic Bad Ass.
edited 25th Jan '17 8:12:46 AM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.@Luigisan 98: Yeah, there's no reason to expect a total repeat of history from century to century. This time, the fascists have the world's largest military and the lion's share of the world's nukes on their side, and thus can win World War III (inasmuch as anyone can "win" a nuclear war) despite the dictator's insanity and incompetence.
Don't you just love fascism-enabling feedback loops?
edited 25th Jan '17 8:15:06 AM by TrashJack
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's DictionaryQuoth megarockman:
That was different, they used hard force against them to suppress them, the majority of the USA on the other day, will do all what it takes to ensure the complete transition of a dictatorship.
Maintaining a low hope for the nation will not help, always think for the best.
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Bleak, but accurate.
"On June 16, 2015, the United States Senate voted 78-21 to adopt an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2016 that reaffirmed the prohibition on torture by limiting interrogation techniques to those in the Army Field Manual. The Army Field Manual does not include waterboarding or other forms of enhanced interrogation. The law requires the field manual to be updated to ensure it 'complies with the legal obligations of the United States and reflects current, evidence-based, best practices for interrogation that are designed to elicit reliable and voluntary statements and do not involve the use or threat of force.' Furthermore, the law requires any revisions to the field manual be made available to the public 30 days prior to the date the revisions take effect.
"During both our personal conversations and his confirmation hearing, CIA Director Mike Pompeo repeatedly committed to me that he will comply with the law that applies the Army Field Manual's interrogation requirements to all U.S. agencies, including the CIA. In response to written questions from the Senate Armed Services Committee, Secretary of Defense James Mattis said he 'support[s] using the Army Field Manual as the single standard for all U.S. military interrogations.' I am confident these leaders will be true to their word."
Until I see some action backing up this tough talk, Johnny boy, I'm putting this in the same category as "I'm tough on Russia! Now excuse me while I vote for Tillerson!"
Oh, but bringing back torture would break the law! We all know that Trump would never, ever break the law. And Pompeo says he wouldn't do it, although McCain conveniently forgets to mention the fact that Pompeo then flip-flopped and said he totally might.
edited 25th Jan '17 8:16:43 AM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."McCain is the kind of disgusting Republican filth that existed at the outset of Reagan, where moral complacency was king — never advocate atrocity, verbally rail against it, but stand by and let it happen at the crucial moment.
There's no such thing as a principled Republican.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."![]()
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Not even that sort of thing will happen, Humanity have survived all odds against anything oppressive, and WWIII will never saw the day light no matter what it happens.
Fascist or not, they will never win, no matter what action they make, they will never completely consume the world as long as rationality it's around.
edited 25th Jan '17 8:23:35 AM by Luigisan98
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Yep.
After the election, when he started putting on his "maverick" persona and doing a lot of big talk about standing up to Trump and being tough on Russia, I was actually starting to like the guy. In hindsight, now I see that was just because I was desperate for heroes. McCain's just like the rest of them, only he pretends he isn't. (And his stunt with Palin is what paved the way for this mess, so thanks, asshole.)
He buckled on Tillerson, is doing the same on Russia, says Sessions is a great choice for AG, is trying to steal people's health care, and now expects us to believe that he's going to stand firm on torture?
Again, I respect your hope and optimism, but it has to be tempered with realism. Fascism is rising, not just here but around the world. And the stage for WWIII is already being set.
edited 25th Jan '17 8:24:41 AM by RBluefish
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Trump Announces 'Major Investigation' Into Voter Fraud
, also known as "Trump puts his Foot in his Mouth, then both in his Ass".
When literally nothing comes out of this waste of Time and Money, I seriously hope this not only destroys and Republican Pretext for outrageous Voter ID laws, but it finally wakes up enough Trump Supporters that they realize Trump is a God Damn Loon!
Also, I just realized this also requires Congress to pass, and there's no way the Senate is going to vote for this!
edited 25th Jan '17 8:25:27 AM by DingoWalley1

Oh wait, in Trump's 'Merica, the only news is supposed to come from Trump himself. Nevermind.
edited 25th Jan '17 7:04:45 AM by speedyboris