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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#168876: Jan 24th 2017 at 9:54:26 AM

[up][up][up] There's normally a Lieutenant Governor to take over. Most of the time they're from the same party, although I think a few states have the Gov. and Lieut. Gov. elected separately. The Current Lieut. Gov. of Minn. is Tina Smith, also a Democrat.

Also, the Gov. of Minnesota is 6 months younger then Trump, but this isn't the first time he's collapsed. He had corrective surgery on his back recently and it's been causing him problems.

edited 24th Jan '17 9:54:58 AM by DingoWalley1

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#168877: Jan 24th 2017 at 9:55:08 AM

[up]Any bets for how long before he tries to have national guard open fire on DAPL protestors.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#168878: Jan 24th 2017 at 9:56:22 AM

[up] And whether anyone in government cares when he does.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#168879: Jan 24th 2017 at 9:56:47 AM

At this rate, wouldn't it be cheaper and easier to redirect the work to another location? Travel the pipe on a different path? Arrange to transport oil via alternate methods of transportation?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#168880: Jan 24th 2017 at 9:57:50 AM

The National Guard, despite the name, isn't actually nationally (federally) controlled—most of the time. The Governor would have to sign off on that use of force, assuming the laws continue to apply.
Also, the pipeline originally meant to travel above Bismarck but that citizens of that city complained that the pipeline might endanger their water supply. (Go figure).

[down]Heh, [nja]. My first one. Is there a prize for that?

edited 24th Jan '17 10:02:31 AM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#168881: Jan 24th 2017 at 9:59:36 AM

[up][up] Fun fact: they already did redirect the pipelines. It was originally going to go through some white-people territory. The white people said "fuck no." The company said "fair enough" and routed it through Native American territory instead. The Native Americans said "fuck no." The company sicced dogs on them.

[up] And who says the rules would apply? The GOP are already changing the rules. All they need to do is force through yet another bill.

They've already got militarized police using potentially lethal force on the water protectors. All they need to do is tell them "cool it with the rubber bullets and tear gas, bring out the real bullets."

edited 24th Jan '17 10:02:34 AM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#168882: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:02:02 AM

[up][up]North Dakota is GOP controlled. They'd sign off.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#168883: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:12:58 AM

Canadian government is on board with Keystone. I don't like it, but we can't afford a confrontation with Trump at this stage.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/trudeau-cabinet-keystone-xl-1.3949754

edited 24th Jan '17 10:13:21 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#168884: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:16:27 AM

I'll bet that while he's been pulling this shit, Trump hasn't read through a single briefing in full.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#168885: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:19:00 AM

About the "militarized police" thing, the actual army has to check more boxes before breaking down doors and shooting (at least in the context MOUT and COIN) and soldiers actually suffer punishment for negligence.

There used to be a reason, we didn't gear up police with IF Vs and assault rifles.  But when all we give police is a hammer...

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#168886: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:21:02 AM

If Civilian Police officers were held to the same standard as Military Cops on bases, you'd solve the problem practically overnight.

If a MP did what regularly C Ps do, they'd be thrown in the brig and have the key destroyed, let alone thrown away.

New Survey coming this weekend!
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#168887: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:22:17 AM

A very interesting tweet chain about being the resistance: tl;dr: EVERYONE has to be on board.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#168888: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:30:16 AM

[up]I mean, duh.

If you didn't vote for HRC and you're protesting Trump, you're already a day late and a dollar short.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#168890: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:32:15 AM

[up]I confess I hadn't been taking the idea of Calexit very seriously but now I'm wondering what might come of it, if anything.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#168891: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:33:17 AM

[up][up] Well...shit.

I hope they realize that the GOP and Russia would like nothing better than for California to secede. The rest of the US would lose one of their main bastions of resistance, and it would probably wreak havoc upon the US in general.

I mean, the guy behind Calexit lives in Russia. As with seemingly everything else, they're behind this too. Divide and conquer.

If California gets so bogged down with infighting and talk of secession that they forget to fight Trump...well, that was a real nice country we had once.

edited 24th Jan '17 10:33:31 AM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#168892: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:37:07 AM

So, Cenk Uygur is trying to start a movement to primary all the Democrats we have?

Yeah, he can fuck right off. Him and his team full of morons.

New Survey coming this weekend!
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#168893: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:37:56 AM

California secedes and Trump imposes a water embargo on the new country, then reconquers California, suspends habeas corpus and starts jailing Dems as collaborators. Secession isn't going to happen; too dangerous.

And if CA secedes, New England will have to stand alone.

[up]Madness and stupidity. Vermin like him are what's killing the Party.

edited 24th Jan '17 10:38:40 AM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#168894: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:38:05 AM

Who's Cenk Uygar?

I mean, I actually think purging the Dems' ranks of all the spineless good-for-nothings should be a top priority when the midterms come along. But there's still a right way and a wrong way to go about things.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#168895: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:38:36 AM

Yeah plus the guy behind Calexit is literally living in Russia.

Oh really when?
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#168896: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:39:01 AM

California, don't be stupid. We need you.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#168897: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:41:15 AM

One third is not a majority yet.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#168898: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:41:45 AM

It's dangerously close, and worse decisions have been made with smaller proportions.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#168900: Jan 24th 2017 at 10:42:36 AM

[up][up][up] No, but it's a hell of a lot of people, especially in a state as populous as California. And since it was considerably less than that not that long ago, it shows that the movement is gaining traction.

Cali's leaders need to start addressing this and explaining why it's a terrible idea. They need to get ahead of the message here.

edited 24th Jan '17 10:42:57 AM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."

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