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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#168626: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:28:42 PM

[up]x8 Hopefully whoever comes next repeals that shit.

edited 23rd Jan '17 3:28:52 PM by Bat178

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#168627: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:30:12 PM

@No Name 999; 12 million people, that we can account for. 6 million was just the Jewish people.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#168628: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:32:13 PM

@Fighteer: And those aren't the people to whom your image matters, nor does it really matter to the people to whom you are being magnanimous towards in this scenario. It's observers who are on the fence about you, and who might conclude based on the use of violence against your opposition, that both sides are evil, so why bother getting involved. It also matters to people having second thoughts about their side on the far right; showing you're willing to offer them a way out makes it more likely those doubts will turn into a genuine change of heart rather than doubling down because they're already in too deep to be forgiven.

edited 23rd Jan '17 3:35:32 PM by CaptainCapsase

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#168629: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:35:23 PM

While we're still on the topic of nazi punching:

Interestingly enough, Woody Allen's take on it is pretty much in line with the anti-facist/anarchists' reasons for doing it.

edited 23rd Jan '17 3:35:52 PM by Eschaton

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#168630: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:40:56 PM

@Gaon: Here's why they don't.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#168631: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:41:51 PM

The last time we tried to be civil to Nazis, 6 million people died.

Between 70 and 85 million died as a result of World War 2. Among them, between 26 and 27 million Soviets (counting everything from starvation to battlefield deaths to crimes againt humanity.)

While not all of them were the direct result of Third Reich policy, a whole heaping helping of them were.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#168632: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:43:22 PM

Capsace, you continue to make apologies for people who will never apologize to you. I'm not taking your bait any more. Your philosophy would paralyze the progressive movement to inaction fueled by the inaccurate belief that their opponents ever intend to operate in good faith. Obama thought that way too, yet all his accomplishments were made when he ignored the right and pushed things through.

We are in an existential war for the soul of America. You might as well be a Republican, since you aren't helping and your line of argument is little better than concern trolling at this point.

edited 23rd Jan '17 3:44:05 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#168633: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:47:57 PM

[up] The appearance of taking the high road is what matters, not that you actually are doing so behind the scenes. Moreover, after you've made the gesture, all bets are off, and no holds are barred. By all means, if they refuse your olive branch, be as ruthless as you can to them without resorting to extralegal means, but always make the offer, and always make sure the public knows about it.

edited 23rd Jan '17 3:53:47 PM by CaptainCapsase

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#168634: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:51:29 PM

The House just passed a bill that would basically prohibit any new government regulations, ever. And allow the Fuhrer to roll back any he doesn't like without having to go through the usual process.

Boo. That makes the events in my story much more plausible, though...

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#168635: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:52:54 PM

So, to ask a rather bleak question...even putting aside all the other potential disasters, looking at the state of things, is there any way that climate change doesn't end up causing utter global calamity?

I ask this here partly because of the aforementioned bill, which removes environmental protections. And because of right-wing governments around the world being either indifferent towards or actively supportive of climate change.

edited 23rd Jan '17 3:53:50 PM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#168636: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:53:04 PM

[up][up] Well, it hasn't passed the Senate yet, so we'll see how things go.

edited 23rd Jan '17 3:59:28 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#168637: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:55:35 PM

[up][up] By all account we're already past the point of no return. If the US does nothing for the next four years and the entire rest of the world enacts harsh carbon cuts, it'll already be too late.

Serious geoengineering or drastic action right now is pretty much the only means by which we're going to save our stupid, stupid species.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#168638: Jan 23rd 2017 at 3:58:15 PM

[up]x5 There comes a point where you just get sick and tired of having the door slammed in your face. Extending the olive branch has resulted in nothing but us getting spit on and called dirty names by people who obviously don't want our help/sympathy/cooperation. Sometimes, you just gotta say, "Okay, if that's they way they want to do it, then fuck 'em and the horse they rode in on."

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#168639: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:01:42 PM

[up] Then you need to grow a thicker skin. Make the offer first. When they refuse, inform them of the consequences and make it a second time. When they refuse again, burn their house down with them inside of it, but make sure to leave the door open for them to change their mind until they breath their last breath.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168640: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:01:43 PM

[up][up][up]So what you're saying then is that my generation (I'm 25 by the way,) might be the last to even have a chance at living a good long life because we're so stupid we might just have fucked things up for all future generations to come?

God Fuck America.

edited 23rd Jan '17 4:02:02 PM by kkhohoho

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#168641: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:03:36 PM

[up] Medical technology is going to be undergoing a revolution in the near future in all likelyhood, so we're going looking at more of a hideous level of wealth inequality in a future that looks increasingly like a cyberpunk setting.

edited 23rd Jan '17 4:04:00 PM by CaptainCapsase

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#168642: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:04:27 PM

[up][up][up] I don't think everyone is obligated to extend an olive branch to the opposition.

Particularly if, say, you're black and they're a white supremacist. People who do do something like that do it at great personal risk, and I don't think you should demand it of everyone.

edited 23rd Jan '17 4:04:46 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#168643: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:06:07 PM

You know when I said I really liked the ShadowRun setting I didn't mean I wanted to live in it.

edited 23rd Jan '17 4:06:48 PM by Lanceleoghauni

"Coffee! Coffeecoffeecoffee! Coffee! Not as strong as Meth-amphetamine, but it lets you keep your teeth!"
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#168644: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:06:07 PM

[up][up] Extending an olive branch doesn't necessarily mean letting your guard down, and obviously the average person cannot be expected to do more than prioritize their own well being, but that particular model is something I think those who intend to involve themselves heavily in the political process should strive towards.

edited 23rd Jan '17 4:07:23 PM by CaptainCapsase

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#168645: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:07:08 PM

LOL I'm 16, thanks for nothing America. We're in a place where its essentially "right now" or we're screwed, or maybe we're already screwed.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168646: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:07:49 PM

[up][up][up]Oh, I don't know. Part of me always did want to step into the world of Blade Runner. Just, you know, maybe not so literally.

[up]If you're lucky, you may be just young enough to live out the rest of your natural life before everything goes kaput, or at least before civilization crumbles as we know it. Always look on the bright side of life, as they say.tongue

edited 23rd Jan '17 4:11:05 PM by kkhohoho

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#168647: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:12:45 PM

Or

Or

?

Also, holy shit that's one hardass album cover. Fuck. I mean, shit. That's some hardcore lotus sitting right there. This person must have been extremely serious about what they were protesting.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#168648: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:13:15 PM

I've pretty much given up any hope of my future being good. I see no point in getting a wife and having kids when I know the world they will grow up in would probably not be worth living in. I might as well just stick to posting on the internet and playing video games for the rest of my life.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#168649: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:14:18 PM

Guys come on, you're kinda all being a bit ridiculous now.

Oh really when?
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#168650: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:14:53 PM

The world used to be lot worse than it is now. People endured. Don't blame the world for your personal hangups.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

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