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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#168151: Jan 21st 2017 at 11:32:29 AM

Yeah, I'm thinking of pulling back and focusing only on Trump's trade and foreign affairs stuff. Everything else is too depressing, and if I keep watching it I'm going to develop an unhealthy level of anti-Americanism (scary how fast that seems to be spreading here, and presumably the rest of the West/some of Asia. Hasn't been this bad since 03...).

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#168152: Jan 21st 2017 at 11:32:32 AM

Glad people mentioned that. I just checked my Twitter account, and I'm suddenly a Trump follower, too.

That said, I've suddenly become an Obama and Theresa May follower as well, so I think this issue is a bit wider than just Trump.

edited 21st Jan '17 11:33:33 AM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#168153: Jan 21st 2017 at 11:35:30 AM

Wow, that's weird.

What about Sean Spicer and Wikileaks? (Wikileaks is the one that's especially creeping me out.) Are people following them all of a sudden?

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#168154: Jan 21st 2017 at 11:37:16 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp0Lk03cVvE

Wow.

So simple, yet so powerful.

Definitely going to see if I can help with the Obama foundation.

New Survey coming this weekend!
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168155: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:25:57 PM

And dont forget, the Trump admin can now read your emails and texts.

edited 21st Jan '17 12:26:14 PM by DeMarquis

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168156: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:33:13 PM

Bah. I was hoping to join in on the Women's March of Amsterdam, but I had promised to help my sister with her new home (and it also happened to be her birthday). While I'm sure no one will think worse of me, I kind of resent not being on the battlefield from day one for such pedestrian reasons.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168157: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:33:14 PM

[up][up]

And dont forget, the Trump admin can now read your emails and texts.

Wait, what?

edited 21st Jan '17 12:34:25 PM by kkhohoho

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168158: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:35:59 PM

He now controls the NSA.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168159: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:37:39 PM

[up]And the NSA can still read your emails and texts? I thought they weren't allowed to do that anymore. Or can they still do that?

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#168160: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:38:33 PM

[up] It won't matter, he'll let them do whatever the hell they want.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#168161: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:48:52 PM

Just checked twitter, and so far as I can see I'm not following anyone I shouldn't be (trump, wikileaks, etc). I live in Brazil so I guess maybe they haven't gotten around to us yet :p I'll let you guys know if I see anything weird.

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#168162: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:50:04 PM

[up] We had a Argentinian user report about it, so South America is not safe.

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#168163: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:06:43 PM

[up]x4

The law didn't stop them the first time. And all the other times.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#168164: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:39:15 PM

While I haven't found hard numbers, it's looking like the attendees to the women's march in Washington DC actually outnumbered the Inauguration attendees. Metro usage is definitely up from what it was on Friday.

Now this is obviously a powerful symbolic message that the people opposing Trump are many and are not just going to accept what his administration does. And while I haven't really researched this topic, I would be very surprised if a previous protest against a President held so quickly after they had assumed office was ever able to outnumber the attendance at the inauguration itself. Not in the past century certainly anyways, which makes it an important historical note.

However is above is not what I like most about the women's march outnumbering the inauguration. What I like most about it is that it will hurt Donald Trump's feelings, and I have become astonishingly petty when it comes to Donald Trump's feelings.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#168165: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:41:14 PM

And the NSA can still read your emails and texts? I thought they weren't allowed to do that anymore. Or can they still do that?
They could never do that, except by either hacking you specifically (which they certainly have the capability of doing, but why would they bother?) or by demanding your email/cell service provider hand over the contents (which they could always do, by issuing a subpoena).

What the NSA was doing before was monitoring metadata — ie, information about calls and texts and the like. They never had access to the actual content of those messages.

edit — oh, and I was following @potus, and ended up following both @potus44 and @potus. I unfollowed @potus and haven't had it added back, or seen anything added besides @potus44.

edited 21st Jan '17 1:43:19 PM by NativeJovian

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#168166: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:48:47 PM

What I like most about it is that it will hurt Donald Trump's feelings, and I have become astonishingly petty when it comes to Donald Trump's feelings.

Trump's feelings are themselves petty, so this is completely fine by me :p

Jasaiga Since: Jan, 2015
#168167: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:49:17 PM

Has anyone watched the Frontline Documentary "Divided States of America"?

If you haven't, do so.

But be warned: you might end up genuinely despising every single Republican politician and voter that exists with the fury of a 100 Suns.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#168168: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:51:12 PM

What I'm worried about is what Trump does when he gets his feelings hurt this badly.

I mean, it's possible he's in outright denial, because he's bragging about what an incredible turnout there was at his inauguration when in reality it was pretty pathetic. But this has to be getting through to him on some level. And when it does, he might go looking for payback.

Remember. His power is effectively unchecked right now.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#168169: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:57:59 PM

[up] Or, at least, it will be when he gets back from vacation.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168170: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:03:04 PM

[up]Yeeup. Right now, we've got a short little reprieve before the madness truly begins. Always good to count your blessings while you can.tongue

edited 21st Jan '17 2:57:46 PM by kkhohoho

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#168171: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:12:49 PM

This comment

To every single one of the regulars here (lurkers or posters): bookmark this, and when you feel hopeless and like there's nothing else to do against Trump or the Republicans, as if they are unstoppable, READ THAT COMMENT. Because you all just stumped the Trump. Now it's not a matter of beating him, it's a matter of beating him again.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#168172: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:13:05 PM

Don't be so hasty. He's checked, just not by anything all that visible. Remember, the civil service is unlikely to be happy with their new president and, despite all complaints, the federal bureaucracy isn't enough to govern the country. It does alot of work through the states' civil services. If you live in, say, California, the state government is free to play Jackass Genie with the worst of his orders, (essentially what Texas became the poster child for during the last 8 years) so long as:

  • their populations support the actions, and
  • their willing to risk losing federal money and be on the receiving end of other kinds of pressure if they play their cards badly.

    In essence, there's still means of defense while organizing for the next elections, even if Trump himself and his advisors are shameless.

Also, Minitrue, er Fox News: Fox News explains to ‘uneducated’ black Americans how Trump is already helping inner cities

edited 21st Jan '17 2:22:53 PM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#168173: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:20:44 PM

At CIA headquarters, Trump boasts about himself, denies feud

Speaking Saturday in front of the wall memorializing fallen officers at CIA headquarters, Trump promised to give the intelligence community his full backing, and hinted at loosening rules on torture put in place under President Barack Obama in the fight against ISIS. "We haven’t used the abilities we’ve got. We’ve been restrained," Trump said.

He drew laughs from the crowd when he described reporters as "the most dishonest human beings" and claimed he'd drawn as many as 1.5 million people to his inauguration despite official estimates closer to 200,000 and repeated images of empty standing spaces.

edited 21st Jan '17 2:22:39 PM by TacticalFox88

New Survey coming this weekend!
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#168174: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:22:22 PM

[up][up] Fair enough. I didn't mean to imply that he was omnipotent or anything. I suppose what I meant was that he is way, way more powerful than any President should ever be. And the usual system of checks and balances doesn't really apply, meaning we're going to have to rely on less obvious and perhaps less immediately effective means of resistance.

[up] Christ.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#168175: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:27:05 PM

Heh, he's whining that his inauguration crowd photos were doctored by the media.


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