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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#168101: Jan 21st 2017 at 5:59:07 AM

[up][up]

A disease can stay asymptomatic for years until the right conditions trigger it. I get the feeling all the necessary pieces were in place, and now that Trump is the president, you can unveil the insanity.

edited 21st Jan '17 6:14:57 AM by TerminusEst

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#168102: Jan 21st 2017 at 6:04:26 AM

[up] It's one of the reasons I was worried that someone like Trump becoming POTUS was inevitable.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Shippudentimes Since: Dec, 2012
#168103: Jan 21st 2017 at 6:15:22 AM

The NY Times did a breakdown/analysis of Trump's speech. I hope there's no paywall this time, as it's rather interesting.

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#168104: Jan 21st 2017 at 6:16:27 AM

Without a path from protest to power, the Women's March will end up like Occupy

"...protesting grandmothers, daughters and mothers have the unique power to do what male protesters cannot—such as break through a line of national guard bayonets without being fired upon... [but] It is [the] difficult question—what comes the day after?—that every supporter of the Women’s March should be earnestly figuring out today.
Without a clear path from march to power, the protest is destined to be an ineffective feelgood spectacle"

Spoils the end but covers the main point 

If any are going, this may be good advice, less this energy dissipate by four years' time. Also the march is international.

Speech by MP Yvette Cooper 

edited 21st Jan '17 6:26:48 AM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#168105: Jan 21st 2017 at 6:38:11 AM

[up]x6 Fuck. Between this and the "shut down your Twitter account immediately" thing mentioned a couple pages ago, I truly am scared the oppressive direction this country is taking and it's been less than a DAY.

edited 21st Jan '17 6:38:31 AM by speedyboris

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#168106: Jan 21st 2017 at 6:41:11 AM

The White House and Washington D.C. used to be the domain of Obama. The White House is clearly Minas Morgul, guys.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#168107: Jan 21st 2017 at 6:49:26 AM

Well, if it makes you feel any better, buzzards are circling but at least Europe isn't going in unprepared, for example: Prime Minister Theresa May said that she would tell a skeptical Mr. Trump how important NATO and the European Union are for European and world stability.

Also "Minas Morgul?"

edited 21st Jan '17 6:51:59 AM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#168108: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:03:35 AM

Also "Minas Morgul?"
From Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium. Formerly known as Minas Ithil, back when it was a Gondorian city and the sister to Minas Tirith (formerly known as Minas Anor), before Sauron's forces took it over and desecrated into a cursed citadel of Evil.

Ithil and Anor mean "moon" and "sun" in Sindarin.

edited 21st Jan '17 7:04:45 AM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#168109: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:10:22 AM

[up] "Desecrated"...hmm. That might be too strong a word for what happened yesterday...but it's pretty close IMHO.

edited 21st Jan '17 7:10:57 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#168110: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:11:06 AM

So, democratic plans to fill the downticket, Go!

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#168111: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:13:19 AM

[up] I'll run for President in 2020. cool I'm an outsider and a white guy, and that's all it takes, right?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#168113: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:17:16 AM

[up][up]Yes but do you have a history with screwing the average worker figuratively and women outside your wedlock literally?

edited 21st Jan '17 7:17:23 AM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
germi91 Public Servant from Spain Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Public Servant
#168114: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:18:08 AM

I assume you'll also need wealth, connections and a certain level of oratory.

"It is true that we are called a democracy, for the administration is in the hands of the many and not of the few."
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#168115: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:18:59 AM

You need to be rich and shameless too. Also the very embodiment of everything you're vilifying.

edited 21st Jan '17 7:20:25 AM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#168116: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:33:54 AM

I'm sure we'll fill the down ticket deficit by constantly insisting that you have to be the embodiment of Trump to win. That's sure to motivate good quality candidates to put themselves forwards.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168117: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:39:16 AM

There is no shortage of democratic candidates at all electoral levels. The question is whether they can get the resources and support they need to win. Every volunteer helps, so if you know of someone you like, get involved.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#168118: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:39:38 AM

[up][up]Well, since the movement claiming to have an answer won't actually fashion us with one, why not?

Someone punched a certain Richard Spencer in the face.

Trump has not actually resigned from his companies. Surprised? Me neither.

edited 21st Jan '17 7:40:22 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#168119: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:45:21 AM

@Demarquis - If people would focus more on that than repeating the doom and gloom ad naueseum, that might actually happen.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#168120: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:50:26 AM

Yeah, the relentless defeatism isnt cool, its just defeatist.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#168121: Jan 21st 2017 at 7:53:33 AM

If folks put as much effort into building a counter movement to the Sanders movement as they do into shiting on the Sanders movement we would have tons of candidates.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#168122: Jan 21st 2017 at 8:01:39 AM

Replace Sanders with Trump, and you'd be even more effective, nationally.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#168123: Jan 21st 2017 at 8:07:46 AM

So, democratic plans to fill the downticket, Go!

Is this a question, an attempt to shift the thread to this topic or a comment on some news you've read or watched?

you'll also need wealth, connections and a certain level of oratory.

(Emphasis added) After Trump? No you don't need that last bit.

I'm sure we'll fill the down ticket deficit by constantly insisting that you have to be the embodiment of Trump to win. That's sure to motivate good quality candidates to put themselves forwards.

Maybe not good quality candidates, but definitely electable ones.

If folks put as much effort into building a counter movement to the Sanders movement as they do into shiting on the Sanders movement we would have tons of candidates.
Agreed with both this, and Shinra's alternative.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#168124: Jan 21st 2017 at 8:09:57 AM

[up]It's an attempt to steer this thread from constant Doom and Gloom toward actual solutions.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#168125: Jan 21st 2017 at 8:19:19 AM

On a more serious note, there are indeed some efforts being pushed to encourage voter engagement/mobilization such as SwingLeft and #KnockEveryDoor. Which does tie in to my question of "how do you get people to actually vote for you?"

What happens in this thread most of the time is merely an extension of the issue that complaining about people being to the right of Marx is a mite too popular among left-leaning online circles.

edited 21st Jan '17 8:19:40 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot

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