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RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#167426: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:29:33 AM

And they were from the time the two parties switched places.

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FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#167427: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:39:26 AM

What happened that they did switch places?

@On Kanye: I'm beginning to think the only reason he would run for President in '20 is to purposefully make himself look bad, so Trump looks good.

Wait, I'm a dumbdumb and didn't read the whole thing. Weren't those two like besties like a moment before? At least, Kanye seemed to admire Trump in some way.

edited 19th Jan '17 11:40:38 AM by FergardStratoavis

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#167428: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:41:39 AM

What happened that they did switch places?

The Civil Rights Act and the southern strategy.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#167429: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:50:17 AM

And let it be clear when the switch happened they only swapped social policies, not economic ones.

The GOP has always been shitty when it comes to economics, tax cuts, catering to the rich, etc.

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#167430: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:50:19 AM

[up][up][up] Also, the Republicans originally represented northern factories, mercantile interests in the cities, and more modestly the urban and urban adjacent interests on the east coasts. Their original opposition to slavery was economic, with the South's refusal to industrialize leaving money on the table. However, after 1850 and continued unrest like Jay Hawks and incidents like John Brown, the writing was on the wall-there was going to be a fracture where economic policy was the sugar-coated topping on serious, perhaps irreconcilable differences in culture, specifically the gentry and slavery. One of the primary reasons Polk and Buchanan are so hated-they saw what was coming and made it worse, while kicking the can down the road and guaranteeing a future president would deal with a split nation.

edited 19th Jan '17 11:50:34 AM by ViperMagnum357

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#167431: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:51:40 AM

Re: the switching of Democratic and Republican political ideology.

It actually has its origin in the GOP's birth as essentially an anti-slavery Single-Issue Wonk party. After the passage of the 13th and 14th amendments, the banking panic of 1973, the corruption in the Grant cabinet, and Hayes's betrayal of the blacks, the GOP was left asking, "And then what?"

So they became the party of urban industrialists, financiers, and Old Money. Then you have the Progressive Era, where the GOP returned to its roots as a liberal party, before the conservative Taft faction seized control of the GOP's platform. The New Deal hardened its pro-business beliefs, and the Civil Rights era brought in disaffected Southern Democrats.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#167432: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:56:59 AM

@167387: and I'll remind everyone that it's also like my country, so there is still a chance people tell him to go fuck himself in 2020. Or maybe even before that, but this part is not a good thing anyways.

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carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#167434: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:02:44 PM

I find the JBA much more sympathetic now (They hate how the modern US government has strayed so far away from the ideals of the founding fathers), and they wanted to nuke New York, Los Angeles and Nashville!

edited 19th Jan '17 12:06:01 PM by Bat178

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#167436: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:04:47 PM

Fun fact: the US government will effectively have no executive branch as of the 21st.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#167437: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:08:13 PM

Starving the beast?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#167438: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:10:11 PM

A lot of this smells like Bannon's doing. He's probably behind some of the worst of the cabinet appointments as well.

Because half the cabinet appointments only make sense if the person choosing them actively wants to damage the government and the nation. Which is exactly Bannon's stated intention.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#167439: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:10:34 PM

I must say, I am somewhat creeped out by some of Trump's nominees. A lot of them seem to have zero clue of what education (for example) is about.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#167440: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:14:00 PM

I am somewhat creeped out by some of Trump's nominees. A lot of them seem to have zero clue of what education (for example) is about.
It makes sense once you realize that none of them were picked because of their particular competence in the field, they were picked on the basic of how good they were at being Drumpf's Yes-Man.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#167441: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:14:53 PM

Loyalty over competence.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#167442: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:16:50 PM

What I find particularly worrisome is that even Republican Senators bombed them with questions. If even the evil circle doesn't have much understanding that does not bode well.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Lost in Space
#167444: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:20:48 PM

Andrew Jackson, maybe? Hard to say. We have certainly never had a government with as little governing experience.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#167445: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:21:03 PM

Nope.

And don't leave out evil and treasonous.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#167446: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:27:33 PM

Let us see if the US can withstand this reign of bufoons. There is a part of me enjoying the Schadenfreude of such illegal foreign interferance in the election. Given you guys did that to us for a while on the 20th century.

edited 19th Jan '17 12:35:22 PM by vandro

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Lost in Space
#167447: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:29:05 PM

[up] And you have every right to enjoy that schadenfreude. The problem is that a corrupt, incompetent U.S. government can have catastrophic effects on global affairs.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#167448: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:31:06 PM

To be clear, I would have picked Lucifer over Donald Trump. But there is humor in this situation.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#167449: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:34:30 PM

...Huh, I thought Inauguration Day was today. Shows how much I know.

Oh God! Natural light!
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#167450: Jan 19th 2017 at 12:46:16 PM

Because half the cabinet appointments only make sense if the person choosing them actively wants to damage the government and the nation. Which is exactly Bannon's stated intention.

According to 4 of Trump's biographers, this is Trump's doing. He wants in-fighting.

Blair: The cabinet appointments seem to me to be people who have been successful in some realm, so he takes that as proof of their abilities. But he’s also looking for people that will be in conflict with everyone in that department. Down the line, it’s the same kind of sowing-conflict mode that he’s used throughout his career of setting people against each other so that they’re not going to be loyal to each other and they’re going to be loyal to him.


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