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Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#167401: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:05:55 AM

From that Wikipedia article:

The Freakonomics blog opined that the map reflected the "despair, division, and bitterness" of the election campaign and results.Slate also covered the image and posited that it might be the reason the Canadian immigration website received six times its usual page views the day after the election.
Hmmm, sounds strangely familiar.

Before hearing about Rick Perry: "All these fears of nuclear war are unfounded. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction for a reason, the situation will never escalate that far."

After: "So, do I start preparing for the nuclear apocalypse now, or can I afford to wait until the end of the semester?"

...I don't even know if I'm kidding or not.

edited 19th Jan '17 9:07:46 AM by Pseudopartition

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#167402: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:25:09 AM

Fighteer was caught building a secret bunker a while ago. If you bring a satellite TV and a solar lamp you might get a space.

Chelsea Manning thanks Obama for prison release

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#167403: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:27:17 AM

[lol] Actually I don't plan on surviving the nuclear apocalypse. It's unlikely that video gaming will survive, and without that my life is largely without meaning. (I'm kidding, but only slightly. I'm a tech geek, and without the tech I have no useful survival skills other than a rusty black belt in tae kwon do.)

At a slightly deeper level, my fundamental moral faith is in humanity's ability to progress. It would shatter me to see that so conclusively disproven.

[down] You have got to be kidding me...

edited 19th Jan '17 9:31:24 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#167405: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:37:48 AM

If MIT forms the the Institute before the nukes start flying, I might have useful skills After the End.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#167406: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:46:00 AM

[up]x6 That's basically the attitude I've heard from people my work friend knows: "He's our president. We need to stop criticizing him and just support him." Okay, first of all, being able to criticize our president is protected under the first amendment, or are you against that too? And second, it's kind of hard to blindly support somebody if they say and do horrible things. Respect is earned, and Trump hasn't earned my respect with the way he behaves or the isolationist policies he wants to enact.

He may become president tomorrow, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

edited 19th Jan '17 9:48:04 AM by speedyboris

RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#167407: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:47:42 AM

They'll change their mind when they (know they) are the one who suffers from his presidency.

Continue writing our story of peace.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#167408: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:49:25 AM

"He's our president. We need to stop criticizing him and just support him."

Yeah, that would have been nice when Obama was in office.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#167409: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:49:54 AM

Nah, this is how it works (according to Republicans): When a Democrat is president, criticizing him and the government is a patriotic duty and anyone who supports him is a freedom hating traitor. When a Republican is president, Führerprinzip goes into effect.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#167410: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:51:11 AM

Elijah Cummings says that if the public knew what Congress knows, they would be boycotting the inauguration too.

Okay. So. Could you. Y'know. Fucking tell us?

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#167411: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:52:28 AM

Ehh. Whatever he's referring to is probably classified for a good reason. It's not like what we do know isn't a good enough reason to boycott.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#167412: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:52:31 AM

Ted Roosevelt said that denying a man's right to criticize a President is flat-out unpatriotic and borderline treasonous to America's ideals.

Listen to Ted.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#167413: Jan 19th 2017 at 10:00:00 AM

[up]them ted is no a patrioc, a patriot shup up whem is side win and sabotage anything the other side does because they at not fit to be(by virture of being the enemy).

welcome to the new politics there in the US.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#167414: Jan 19th 2017 at 10:11:15 AM

[up][up] Can we just dig up Teddy Roosevelt's corpse and vote for him instead? I feel like he'd be a better pick than Kim Jong Cartman anyway.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#167415: Jan 19th 2017 at 10:12:34 AM

Lot of right wingers despise Teddy Roosevelt for his support of the National Park Service. antiquities act, and generally blame him for "planting the seeds of socialism" to quote one I know, so not gonna get much traction there. Thank The John Birchers and Glenn Beck for that one, they developed a massive hateboner for him a year or so after Obama's 1st win.

edited 19th Jan '17 10:16:49 AM by carbon-mantis

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#167416: Jan 19th 2017 at 10:13:32 AM

Rick Perry Recognizes Human Caused Climate Change, Disagrees with Measures that would Harm Industry.

I don't know if this is a step in the right direction, or a step in the wrong direction.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#167417: Jan 19th 2017 at 10:16:50 AM

In case anyone wasn't feeling depressed enough already - Our Kids May Never Get The Chance To Know America. A deeply pessimistic look at our future.

Trump has won, and the US has changed irrevocably. We are a day from an inauguration marred by an investigation into Russian interference, in which multiple intelligence agencies and political leaders have stated the president-elected is a Kremlin asset utilized to undermine the democratic process.

We are days away from having a cabinet with men whose presence benefits Russia more than it does US citizens, and who often have a record of bigotry and cruelty so vile they were refused past appointments. Journalists are being threatened, protesters have been deemed "economic terrorists", intelligence agencies are on the verge of a purge, ambassadorships are being left unfilled; and wealthy international white supremacists - Le Pen, Farage - are being flown to a golden New York tower to hone their faux populism stateside.

There is no "That's just the way things were" to answer the question of what happened in 2016. It's "That's the way things became", as century-old norms were disregarded by a president-elect whose deepest loyalties appear to lie a foreign power. There is a difference between institutions weakening, as they have throughout the wars and economic turmoil of the 21st century, and institutions that protect personal freedom and national security being purposefully disregarded as irrelevant by the president himself.

We are living in a rupture, and we might not make it back.

The history of the US is riddled with leaders betraying in practice the laws sanctified on paper. Centuries-old injustices over race and class are frequently glossed over in textbooks that seek to inspire with tales of heroism instead of to scare with the truth of the disregarded.

But in the past and recent present, US leaders struggled to hide or justify their misdeeds, afraid of public accountability. They did not always uphold the values of our founding documents but they knew they were supposed to try. They knew there could be penalties if they were caught in immoral or criminal behavior, such as humiliation, a lost election, or even impeachment.

In contrast, bigotry is blatant; laws are broken; patriotism is sham that seems to amuse them. What is unprecedented is not that a president is doing bad things, but that he does not bother to pretend to be good. This malice is not an indicator of liberating honesty, as contrarians have framed it, but a signpost on the road to humanitarian catastrophe.

Policies Trump has embraced include eliminating healthcare for millions of Americans, using nuclear weapons, supporting Russian imperialism, rounding up ethnic and religious minorities, and making lists of federal employees who study climate change or gender equality, in seeming anticipation of a mass firing and an attack on science and freedom. These authoritarian moves do not benefit any US citizen, including those who voted for him. That these policies are being proclaimed openly, and in several instances blatantly favor Russian interests over those of the US, implies that traditional penalties for betraying the electorate are gone.

As anyone who lives in an authoritarian state knows, once authoritarians get in, it is very hard to get them out. Politicians looking at 2018 and 2020 fail to comprehend that authoritarians rewrite rules, that laws are only as good as the people who uphold them, that the constitution is a piece of paper unless it is honored in practice.

So long as the majority of politicians on both sides of the aisle continue to cower to the new administration, it becomes increasingly unlikely that democracy will hold.

I don't like to say it, and I know that hopelessness serves no purpose, but I can't really fault her logic.

edited 19th Jan '17 10:17:02 AM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#167418: Jan 19th 2017 at 10:17:09 AM

I will pull my "this is like my country" card again and said that...well, is pretty similar to venezuela, right now the electoral power is against the oposition and blame them for not being tolerant or open to "true" dialogue without conditions....this come from the party that used to control all the powers

This is because seen their own position as seen as rightious, they dont have to explain shit to anyone, whaat they do is what they do.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#167419: Jan 19th 2017 at 10:17:14 AM

Lot of right wingers couldn't tell one Roosevelt from the other. Aside from lip service to the Founding Fathers, their history begins in the 1940's and their Good President list begins at Reagan.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#167420: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:01:25 AM

The best way to describe the upcoming Trump presidency:

Replace Rob Schneider with Donald Trump, It's exactly the same.

edited 19th Jan '17 11:07:20 AM by Demongodofchaos2

Watch Symphogear
Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#167421: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:01:27 AM

There's a live CBC news Q&A on right now. "Susan Ormiston is in Moscow's Red Square taking your questions on Russia, Trump and the new world order." Nice choice of words there, I guess. The next four years are going to be ...interesting?

This still doesn't feel like it's really happening.

edited 19th Jan '17 11:07:14 AM by Pseudopartition

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Vampire Hunter
#167422: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:13:50 AM

Which is ironic since Theodore Roosevelt is generally considered the second-best Republican President and one of the top five best Presidents. Of course, the best Republican President is Abraham Lincoln, while the other three in the top five are generally George Washington, Franklin D Roosevelt, and Thomas Jefferson. Basically, Mount Rushmore with the addition of FDR.

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#167423: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:16:48 AM

[up]I...what? Washington was a Federalist in all but name, FDR is perhaps the best Democrat president by record and hated by the far right, and I will give you Jefferson as a Democratic-Republican and the model for small government types.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#167424: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:16:49 AM

Holy shit

A spokesperson for president-elect Donald Trump's inauguration committee told CNN that Friend of Donald Kanye West was not invited to perform at the real estate mogul's inaugural because 'Ye's music wasn't right for the "typically and traditionally American event." Tom Barrack, chairman of the Presidential Inauguration Committee, told CNN's Erin Burnett that the inauguration wasn't a "fitting" venue for West, who famously met with Trump in December and posed for a stiff photo at Trump Tower afterwards ...

"He's been great, he considers himself a friend of the president-elect, but it's not the venue." Kanye, who was born in Chicago and performs a style of music, hip-hop, that was invented in the United States on the streets of Trump's New York in the late 1970s, performed at MTV's Inaugural Youth Ball in honor of President Obama in 2009. "It's going to be typically and traditionally American, and Kanye is a great guy, we just haven't asked him to perform. And we move on with our agenda," Barrack added.

Like not even bothering to pretend.

New Survey coming this weekend!
GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#167425: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:23:51 AM

[up][up] I meant in terms of the top five best Presidents regardless of political party. Those five are the top five Presidents period. Lincoln and Teddy are just the two Republicans on that list.

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