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TropesForever God forbid women do anything from wait where is she Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
God forbid women do anything
#167126: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:32:44 PM

If the Rust Belt turns, that would be almost poetic. The entire country united against Trump, except all the leaders, who are united for him.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#167127: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:38:12 PM

The Children’s Health Insurance Program, or CHIP, was created in 1998 as part of a deal in which Democrats got health coverage for children and Republicans got a capital-gains tax cut.

Jesus.

That one sentence sums up practically everything in DC right now.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#167128: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:38:55 PM

[up][up]Can't disagree with the Swedish Chef.

Also, this may be a stupid question, but why can't Manning be released now rather than April? Or to put in another way, when the individual is someone who is suicidal and has been subject to bad conditions, if you are going to release them, it would be better to do so sooner rather than later. Or at least transfer them to better conditions in the interim.

edited 17th Jan '17 1:39:07 PM by Hodor2

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#167129: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:50:41 PM

[up][up]Sounds to me like they got more than they gave and they wanted what they got.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#167130: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:04:04 PM

"We'll turn on Trump if he doesn't do what we want." Well that's great. You going to apologize to all of the people who's lives the Republicans are going to ruin as well, or is it all just about you? Voting for someone just because they say they're going to bring jobs is ignorant, especially when they've barely outlined a plan for that.

I mean, those liberals are discriminating our choices and life style, my brother was expelled for wearing our traditional attire in college - John Smith, as he handles copies of birth of a nation wearing his white hood. I feel like we're being hostilized for who we are. We can't be proud of our heritage and voicing that pride is getting us shunned from society - James Lind, holding a copy of Mein Kampft on his stand titled The Jewish Question.
I'm seriously tempted to cartoon that (with your permission), but I'm not particularly in the mood to get death threats from the internet this year...

edited 17th Jan '17 2:07:40 PM by Pseudopartition

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#167131: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:06:16 PM

It was a reckless gamble which they'll probably regret.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#167132: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:08:20 PM

Hey, Trump's gonna give everyone health insurance now. How? Because he's Trump!

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#167133: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:11:08 PM

I'm just waiting for Fox to make the inevitable announcement that Trump has decided to replace Obamacare with his new invention, the Affordable Care Act.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Mely OMGWTFBBQ from under your bed Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
OMGWTFBBQ
#167134: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:11:26 PM

Manning is still guilty of giving state documents to Wikileaks, though. It's horrible the way they treated her, yeah, but she's still pretty much a traitor for working with Wikileaks aka Putin's stooges. How's that a reason to celebrate?

There's a moment we make a decision Not to cower and crash to the ground The moment we face our worst demons Our courage found
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#167135: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:16:17 PM

[up]That poor woman made a well-meaning mistake.

[up][up]in the grand scheme of things, I would be OK with that.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#167136: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:18:33 PM

Yeah Manning did what she did not to reveal anything but so as to hurt the US military in retaliation for its poor treatment of her.

She knowingly worked with Wikileaks, an organisation whose leader would later that year be arrested on rape charges, while I feel sympathy for her (she is a damaged person who lashed out and has been punished horribly for that (including likely being tortured)) it's hard to see her as any kind of hero or good person, she's more a cautionary tale about what happens when you ignore the psychological needs of your troops.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#167137: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:28:28 PM

While admitting I don't know enough about the case to fully comment, my impression was that Manning uncovered/leaked some actual wrongdoing (i.e. atrocities) by U.S. troops and that Wikileaks wasn't the Russian mouthpiece then that it has become. Or to put that last part another way, you can't really attribute Assange's personal flaws and motivations to Manning.

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#167138: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:38:23 PM

I thought Manning was the "Grab anything and everything that wasn't nailed down and leak it all" one. IIRC the leaks contained info on informants and identity information of Jews residing in Iraq.

edited 17th Jan '17 2:45:36 PM by carbon-mantis

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#167139: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:42:15 PM

It needs to be said (again) that Wikileaks did not have the reputation it does now back in 2009 and reputable outlets like the NYT were willing to work with them. It's likely they were not a Russian tool at the time.

([nja])

edited 17th Jan '17 2:42:40 PM by Elle

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#167140: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:44:54 PM

[up][up]She was, because of that she compromised a lot of people. Including the names and locations of the last few Jews in Afghanistan, I think it was.

Oh really when?
DoomEngine The user formerly known as pagad Since: Dec, 2016
The user formerly known as pagad
#167141: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:45:29 PM

Manning's sentence was absurdly long and her treatment has been astonishingly brutal, even by the US justice system's low standards. Does anyone really think she'd have lasted another five years, let alone to 2045?

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#167142: Jan 17th 2017 at 2:51:21 PM

That very well may have been the point.

I hate to speculate that about any person, but hey.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#167143: Jan 17th 2017 at 3:03:40 PM

Why are they releasing her now?

Do not obey in advance.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#167144: Jan 17th 2017 at 3:04:56 PM

Just wanted to ask, is anyone here who posts regularly part of the college educated demographic?

Had to answer a cell phone poll, and had to answer no even though I'll be finished in two years, was just wondering for everyone else.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#167145: Jan 17th 2017 at 3:05:34 PM

Wikileaks didn't have the reputation it has now but Assange was arrested on rape charges that same year.

Manning leaked stuff that looks very bad if I recall (including footage of a friendly fire incident where the helicopter firing thought it was targeting insurgents and was thus jubilant about every hit) but also random stuff that revealed nothing but the identities of people who the Taliban and AQ wanted to kill.

[up] X2 Obama is doing his final pardons on his way out the door.

[up] I failed my final year of uni, so technically I guess I'm not. tongue

edited 17th Jan '17 3:06:56 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#167146: Jan 17th 2017 at 3:07:42 PM

[up][up]Yeeup; Bachelors in Theater and an Associates in Liberal Arts. And at nearly 26, I still don't have a Full Time Job. Something for you to look forward to, eh?tongue

[down]...Overachieving bastard.tongue

edited 17th Jan '17 3:44:11 PM by kkhohoho

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#167147: Jan 17th 2017 at 3:07:49 PM

I have my Master's degree.

Edit: [up] Ugh, way too real.

Any news from the peanut President gallery?

edited 17th Jan '17 3:08:11 PM by RedSavant

It's been fun.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#167148: Jan 17th 2017 at 3:11:08 PM

I'm graduating in May. Hopefully the economy can hold together long enough for me to find a job.

edit: @Rust belt voters will turn on Trump article: The guy giving the "We will turn on him so fast" quote actually comes from my area. I really hope they do. Seeing the people in my hometown vote for Trump infuriates me.

edited 17th Jan '17 3:14:15 PM by Kostya

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#167149: Jan 17th 2017 at 3:11:27 PM

[up][up][up][up]Wait I thought you had a Degree in International Relations?

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#167150: Jan 17th 2017 at 3:12:46 PM

IGNORE POST

edited 17th Jan '17 3:13:02 PM by kkhohoho


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