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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#167101: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:03:15 AM

I swear to god if anyone were to say to my face that they thought Hillary was the evil or corrupt one, I don't think I could stop myself before punching them square in the jaw.

New Survey coming this weekend!
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#167102: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:06:01 AM

"I only recall the the one voicemail Andrew Breitbart left not too long before he bought the farm (now, for his namesake site, its (ex-)writers and its fans...). Which one was this?"

I'm referring to this.

edited 17th Jan '17 11:06:14 AM by speedyboris

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#167103: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:06:46 AM

what is this I don't even

And I suppose Jill Stein has nothing to say about this?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#167104: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:09:08 AM

It is like when we saw the Islamic State pulling cruel executions and tactics that would be called exaggerated or absurd in they were done in fiction.

Meanwhile the Republicans are acting more petty and malicious than any far fetched caricature of evil politicians.

For a party that has been whining and moaning about being treated as unscrupulous and evil assholes, they are hell bent in being one.

edited 17th Jan '17 11:09:19 AM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#167105: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:13:44 AM

@ writing representatives, Glorious nation of North Carolina, so our government is pretty red at the moment. In rural communities where everyone knows everyone even minor differences of opinion can bite you in the ass; for example a minor disagreement with a local minister one Sunday once ended up nearly costing me my job because he knew someone on the chamber of commerce who happily spread some nasty rumors afterwards. I'm a Christian, but I'm pretty much blacklisted from a church or two now and probably held up as much as an atheist in their eyes.

Didn't think about writing anonymously, might actually give that a go.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#167106: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:16:29 AM

Fuck that.

I'd move as far away from those people as possible.

New Survey coming this weekend!
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#167107: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:21:33 AM

"I'm a Christian, but I'm pretty much blacklisted from a church or two now and probably held up as much as an atheist in their eyes."

That's messed up. The "blacklisted from churches" part, I mean.

edited 17th Jan '17 11:22:45 AM by speedyboris

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#167108: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:41:25 AM

Go Publius on them.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#167109: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:45:39 AM

Perhaps nail a list of grievances to their doors?

sidebar 

edited 17th Jan '17 11:47:59 AM by BlueNinja0

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#167110: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:59:27 AM

Buzzfeed is trying to map Trump's interest network.

John Dean, Nixon's former lawyer, thinks that Trump "is going to test our democracy as it has never been tested".

Notably, he saw Nixon display a sense of shame on occasion, something he isn't inclined to believe Trump has.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#167111: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:10:35 PM

Former Apprentice contestant Summer Zervos has officially filed a defamation lawsuit against Trump, based on accusations of sexual harassment and misconduct.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#167112: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:47:14 PM

Between Trump's impossible promises and stuff like the ACA, it looks like the GOP will have trouble holding the Rust Belt.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/trump-voters-rust-belt-1.3937862

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#167113: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:51:58 PM

[up]

"We will turn on him so quick, and with a vengeance."

How likely is it that they'll all turn on him the first microsecond of the inauguration? Because that would simultaneously hilarious and cathartic.

edited 17th Jan '17 12:52:16 PM by kkhohoho

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#167114: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:56:06 PM

So Roger Stone claimed to have been poisoned with polonium. Rebuttal included in the link, because I'm nice like that.

Y'know, I think it would be worse if he were to actually ingest the stuff and die slowly and miserably, since it would be a perfect cassus belli for Trump...

edited 17th Jan '17 12:56:18 PM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#167115: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:56:33 PM

No, they won't.

He'll just do the same racist shit, and they'll fall for the con again.

New Survey coming this weekend!
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#167116: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:56:59 PM

@blkwhtrbbt: Maybe I should've clarified what I meant by "screwing me over in some way".

Basically, I mean if the actions of the Trump administration is directly responsible for any of several hypothetical scenarios that follow a similar patter to the one(s) outlined below:

  1. Saudi Arabia's economy tanks due to Trump's "strategy" towards the world economy, driving the majority of the country's middle class, of which I am part of, below or close to the poverty line.
  2. Saudi Arabia is dragged into a war it didn't start, and one which the Saudi Arabian people do not want part of at all (e.g. the USA invades Iran to "liberate" its people and avenge perceived wrongs), with all the inevitable results.
  3. Saudi Arabia finds itself wracked with more terrorist attacks (lone wolf or otherwise) in a single year than it had experienced over the past decade, such that previously safe cities (you know, ones which pretty much never see more than a minor terrorist attack every other year, if at all) are no longer so safe and one cannot go on the street without fearing that their own life may come to an abrupt end by being at the wrong place at the wrong time. The cause? Fuhrer Trump enacting a foreign policy that ends up being the equivalent of pouring an entire metric ton of high-grade jet fuel on a small bonfire when it comes to the worldwide threat of terrorism.

Basically, if my life ends up becoming an example of "Crapsack World can be Truth in Television", then my eternal hate will be directed at those who allowed it to happen.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#167117: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:59:18 PM

Saudi Arabia being dragged into a war it didn't start? Huh. My impression is that the Saudi government is one of these who will keenly start a war (we are kindly supposed to ignore the success chances)

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#167118: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:16:37 PM

[up][up]I completely understand the desire and logic behind it. What I am warning about is

any means necessary, fair or foul.

which was less than a page after we got a mod warning. Reading it again, I realize I may have just been a bit alarmist, but you're a cool dude and I was worried about further thumps/and or bans.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#167119: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:19:15 PM

The Saudi economy could very well tank on its own, if oil prices were to drop and stay low.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#167120: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:21:57 PM

Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence, will be freed in May

You know what?

Hell yeah. I'll take these small victories.

New Survey coming this weekend!
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#167121: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:23:41 PM

...hopefully there's enough time for her to get clear of the worst the Trump admin will throw at her.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#167122: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:26:28 PM

One thing that is not helping the inauguration is how many musicians and bands whose songs the campaign used without permission. tongue

Even if Rust Belt voters turn on Trump, what could they even do? They would still be in for at least four years of the same old, same old, right? sad

Do not obey in advance.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#167123: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:26:46 PM

If Trump moves to try and block this I wonder if he'd piss off the likes of other leakers like Assange.

Oh really when?
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#167124: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:27:42 PM

[up]I wonder what Trump deciding not to press charges against Hillary for now has done to Assange's precious feelings.

EDIT: James Cartwright has been pardoned for lying to FBI about conversations with reporters regarding Stuxnet

Yeah I'm not sure if Assange saw this coming.

edited 17th Jan '17 1:30:02 PM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#167125: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:29:15 PM

[up][up][up]Yup, but it might also mean we wouldn't be in for eight years of the same old, same old.


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