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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166926: Jan 15th 2017 at 8:34:15 PM

[up] At this point we can only hope that Trump himself doesn't get involved too much in the actual negotiations and sticks with tweeting about whatever annoys him everyday.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#166927: Jan 15th 2017 at 8:54:40 PM

Are we sure that this isn't the reduction deal the Kremlin previously backed out of because its feelings were hurt?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#166928: Jan 15th 2017 at 9:57:11 PM

Trump nearly gave away classified information today on a tabloid.

“I have just looked at something … Oh, I should not show you it at all, because it’s secret - but I have just taken a look at Afghanistan. If you look at the Taliban there, they’re just getting bigger and bigger and bigger every year. And you ask yourself ‘what’s going on there?’”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/15/angela-merkel-refugees-policy-donald-trump

Goodness gracious.

New Survey coming this weekend!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166929: Jan 15th 2017 at 10:09:53 PM

[up] So it's now gotten to the point where Trump talking baseless bullshit out of his ass is now the better scenario. As opposed to nearly leaking classified information. SMH

Every time this man opens his facehole — every time he tweets — he endangers national security and dignity.

edited 15th Jan '17 10:11:45 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#166930: Jan 15th 2017 at 10:57:20 PM

The last time Russia played around with a strong man with funny hair and his army of nationalists, things went really, really bad.

Sure they pulled through, but with a whopper of a lives lost number.

Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#166931: Jan 15th 2017 at 11:57:19 PM

^^ Well, chalk up another mark on the "literally a worse version of something he accused Hillary of" board.

If you can find any empty space to put it in, anyway.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#166932: Jan 16th 2017 at 12:01:25 AM

"Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty."

- Joseph Goebbels

EDIT: Great, Nazi pagetopper.

edited 16th Jan '17 12:01:42 AM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#166933: Jan 16th 2017 at 12:03:00 AM

I can't even imagine how utterly angry Hillary must feel overtime she wakes up. I'd feel betrayed by the very people I had served for thirty fucking years, and all the smears, right-wing and Russian propaganda, dealing with Sanders and his ilk, witchunts, a semi-rogue FBI...

Fuck, man. As someone who loves the woman to death, I feel angry myself at we let her (and by proxy the whole world) down.

New Survey coming this weekend!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166934: Jan 16th 2017 at 12:15:50 AM

[up] Note that her approval ratings were high whenever she was actually in office and more or less out of the public eye. Everyone's fine with her as long as she quietly works for them. But the moment she campaigns, people find reasons to hate and complain. Then again, that's what usually happens to women who actively seek promotions.

I have no doubt that if she had actually won the election, she'd have left the WH with the highest approval ratings ever.

And yeah, she's been through a ton of crap during her life. There's a reason her default expression seems to be set to "Are you fucking kidding me?"

[up][up], [up][up][up]: It's just more classic right-wing psychological projection.

edited 16th Jan '17 12:23:46 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#166935: Jan 16th 2017 at 12:18:10 AM

Dunno about that. I certainly believe she would've done a good job, but a President is never out of the public eye, and people are eternally coming up with reasons to hate them.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166936: Jan 16th 2017 at 12:21:41 AM

[up] I'm more or less basing this on the pattern of her life. She's hated whenever she's competing or applying for the job, but loved while she's actually doing the job. Because, dammit, she's good at it.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#166937: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:18:15 AM

Trump is promising "healthcare for everybody" in ACA replacement plan.

I swear to God if the GOP is surdenly on board with single payer when a Republican is proposing it...Well, in the meantime, I'll believe it when I see it Mister President-Elect.

edited 16th Jan '17 3:18:34 AM by CaptainCapsase

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166938: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:27:03 AM

[up] Either

a) He has no actual plan aside from what's scrawled on a napkin or a tweet.

or

b) The plan he comes up with is an awful and impractical one that would make the ACA seem even better by comparison.

or

c) The plan is actually a scheme to line his pockets and the pockets of cronies in the healthcare industry while barely providing any real aid to American citizens.

or

d) some combination of the above.

But if he really is trying to implement a single-payer plan...who wants to bet that the GOP Congresspeople will suddenly decide it's time to impeach him?

edited 16th Jan '17 3:28:08 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#166939: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:34:52 AM

Trump is really doing a spiffing job to alienate Germany. And I am not even sure if it is intentional or not. But so far he has voiced his discontent that the EU exist, accuses Germany of using it to its own gain, accusing Germany of not pulling their weight in the NATO, and threatened to put tariffs on German products...which, lol, that will be a rude awakening once he realizes how many parts which are put in US cars are actually German.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#166940: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:36:07 AM

Aren't some of those fair?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166942: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:37:07 AM

[up][up][up] Does Trump just hate cars or something? He keeps threatening and harassing automanufacturers.

Ugh, maybe he's just trying to fuck with Obama's accomplishment of saving the USA auto industry with that bailout.

edited 16th Jan '17 3:37:38 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#166943: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:40:48 AM

Aren't some parts of American tanks also German-manufactured?

edited 16th Jan '17 3:41:16 AM by DrunkenNordmann

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#166944: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:40:58 AM

Trump's going after Germany because they are, ironically, currently one of the last remaining bastions of liberal democracy in the West. Putin's coming for Merkel now, and Trump's going to be backing him up. If those bastards succeed in unseating Merkel and installing another right-wing fascist stooge, then I imagine Germany will be welcomed into the new Axis.

Seriously, you guys need to hang in there. If Merkel goes we're in big trouble.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#166945: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:43:18 AM

[up][up]I don't think so. The M256 cannon is a licensed production of the Rheinmetal 120mm L/44 smoothbore, but I'm pretty sure it's made in the USA.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#166946: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:48:20 AM

[up][up] We do our best. But to be fair, we aren't alone. The actual core member states of the EU (and no, the UK is not and never was one of them) are standing with us.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#166947: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:59:18 AM

The online hacker group called Anonymous that leaked information explaining the Steubenville rapists is now targeting Trump.

Anonymous on Twitter:

You have financial and personal ties with Russian mobsters, child traffickers and money launderers.

This isn't the 80's any longer. Information doesn't just vanish, it is all out there. You are going to regret the next 4 years.

We could care less about Democrats attacking you, the fact of the matter is, that you are implicated in some really heavy shit.

Roy Cohen and your daddy aren't here protect you anymore.

Oh and please tell your interns not to waste any money hitting us with your Moldavian bot farm, stay frosty

edited 16th Jan '17 3:59:30 AM by MadSkillz

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#166948: Jan 16th 2017 at 4:01:32 AM

Where were they in November?

Oh really when?
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#166949: Jan 16th 2017 at 4:04:18 AM

Anonymous is full of hot air until proven otherwise, as far as I'm concerned. I remember back when the Orange One was still campaigning they talked a lot of shit about how they were declaring "total war" on him or some such pretentious nonsense. They couldn't even stop him from being elected, are we expected to believe they're going to stop him now that he's the second most powerful man in the world?

If they can do it, fantastic. But until I see some results, all I hear is posturing and attention-seeking.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#166950: Jan 16th 2017 at 4:14:44 AM

Honestly, the best argument for the EU, problems with excessive austerity and the divide between Northern and Southern Europe aside, is that it did the job for which it was designed - it created economic interdependence in Europe.

And that interdependence led to an actual, lasting peace in a continent that couldn't get enough of war. It's a remarkable achievement in that regard. The problem is much the same as the problem with increased globalisation. It created few winners and a lot of losers, and without the political will to mitigate this, it all got blamed on The Other. Fast forward a decade or two of liberals with their heads in the sand, and voilá.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.

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