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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#166526: Jan 13th 2017 at 12:58:44 PM

More info on the spy where the Russia story comes from. I really, really wish this had been made available to the public before we voted. I mean, it would've never changed the minds of his base, but the fence/protest voters might've been swayed.

edited 13th Jan '17 1:05:09 PM by speedyboris

WhatArtThee Since: Oct, 2015
#166527: Jan 13th 2017 at 1:06:57 PM

This just keeps getting worse, and worse...

Just another day in the life of Jimmy Nutrin
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#166528: Jan 13th 2017 at 1:08:15 PM

I suddenly don't feel so bad about constantly shooting Russians in video games now.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#166529: Jan 13th 2017 at 1:15:20 PM

[up][up][up]I suppose we have Comey to thank for that. He spent the week before the election focusing on Teh Emailz.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#166530: Jan 13th 2017 at 1:28:54 PM

[up][up]You know we have several Russian posters on this forum, right?

Inter arma enim silent leges
ZeroPoint Since: Feb, 2013
#166531: Jan 13th 2017 at 1:59:28 PM

Any time I bring up the scary things Trump is doing my mom either approves or says "well if things are going to be so awful, how come you haven't killed yourself by now?" (That last bit also encompasses my views on climate change). I live in Europe so there's nothing I can do. Am I supposed to keep going until all of a sudden everything ends?

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#166532: Jan 13th 2017 at 2:02:19 PM

How old are you? Because if you're a minor, your mother should be charged with child abuse.

Fighteer MOD Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#166533: Jan 13th 2017 at 2:02:45 PM

[up][up] Stuff's not going to "suddenly end", although if your mom is telling you to kill yourself, you have a valid case for child abuse with the authorities. That said, your question is seriously off-topic for this thread, and we most especially will not engage in personal counseling.

edited 13th Jan '17 2:04:08 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#166534: Jan 13th 2017 at 2:03:24 PM

[up][up][up] Suicide does not solve political problems. Sounds like you have a abusive mother to me.

edited 13th Jan '17 2:03:45 PM by Bat178

ZeroPoint Since: Feb, 2013
#166535: Jan 13th 2017 at 2:03:30 PM

[up][up][up]29, don't worry. Also, it's not like she TOLD me to do it, she was just wondering.

[up][up] Sorry.

edited 13th Jan '17 2:06:16 PM by ZeroPoint

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#166536: Jan 13th 2017 at 2:13:04 PM

It's okay. More likely is that stuff will get gradually worse for all but the super-rich and/or politically connected, until the current wave of reactionary politics sufficiently discredits itself and is swept out by progressive reforms, or a major crisis happens, followed by a revolutionary wave. It's the pattern of history.

If anything, the dangerous idea is that we are somehow exceptional, that humanity of the 21st century has "grown out" of the cycle of politics. That leads to complacency, which gets us Trumpistan.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#166537: Jan 13th 2017 at 2:16:51 PM

And protest. Trust me, some of us are not going to take all this sitting down. Dont give up.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
AzureSpiritStone Since: Aug, 2014
#166538: Jan 13th 2017 at 2:22:10 PM

[up] The exact attitude I am taking. I will fight tooth and nail for what I see as right.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#166539: Jan 13th 2017 at 2:22:12 PM

I think we all need to start seriously considering maximum personal data paranoia. If Trump's regime starts actually using Obama's surveillance and Facebook and Google's data bases...

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#166541: Jan 13th 2017 at 2:25:41 PM

[up][up] I don't use Facebook or any other social media site, so they'll get nothing from me.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#166542: Jan 13th 2017 at 2:49:39 PM

Reminder that there are going to be organized protest marches in most major cities the day after the inauguration.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#166543: Jan 13th 2017 at 3:09:27 PM

[up]On the one hand, good. On the other hand, let's just hope Trump doesn't decide to use this as an excuse to show everyone just what he thinks being the President truly means...

edited 13th Jan '17 3:09:50 PM by kkhohoho

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#166544: Jan 13th 2017 at 3:22:27 PM

No plans for civil disobedience/resistance?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#166545: Jan 13th 2017 at 3:24:28 PM

Protests, sure, but what else is there? People don't take those seriously anymore.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#166546: Jan 13th 2017 at 3:40:09 PM

[up]What else are they supposed to do? Defecate all over Trump's shiny new lawn?

edited 13th Jan '17 3:41:21 PM by kkhohoho

Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#166547: Jan 13th 2017 at 3:41:48 PM

People are beginning to realise the inevitable: that only Trump can bring himself down. I still find it hard to believe that posters here have hope that Trump's own party will impeach him over relatively minor things.

Life is unfair...
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#166548: Jan 13th 2017 at 3:57:27 PM

@Zero: Well, you should probably point out that that's an incredibly inappropriate question and ask her why she thought it was ok to ask that of her child, regardless of age. In any case, unless you've become a citizen of whatever part of Europe you're in, you can still vote in whatever state you're a citizen of I think. You could look into that and see what exactly your voting rights are in your situation. Even if you are in a different country right now, your vote still counts.

Also I guess you could contribute to politics wherever you are by getting involved in local causes? I mean, that doesn't really help America, but you need to look for what you can do where you are. Europe is having problems, too, obviously.

Blkwhtrabbit: You say that but if it was true people would stop doing those. The problem, obviously, is that protests need to get onto TV and other media. Which I think might be less of a problem going forward. Protests still have power.

edited 13th Jan '17 4:00:32 PM by AceofSpades

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#166549: Jan 13th 2017 at 4:14:34 PM

People are beginning to realise the inevitable: that only Trump can bring himself down. I still find it hard to believe that posters here have hope that Trump's own party will impeach him over relatively minor things.

They'll impeach him once his approval ratings go down.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#166550: Jan 13th 2017 at 4:19:46 PM

They've already gone down, and approval ratings aren't enough reason to want to dump him. While I do kind of think impeachment is highly likely, I don't expect it to happen this year, and probably not the next.

The thing is, though, if none of his crimes are meeting with resistance from the Republicans now, what exactly could he do that could be framed as unacceptable later on? Because so far most of them seem okay with all the Russia crap, accepting Mc Cain and Graham. Mc Cain can't hold that line on his own, and Graham seems to be bending.


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