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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#166451: Jan 13th 2017 at 6:57:17 AM

What's both terrifying and utterly hilarious is the way he keeps going "RUSSIA SAYS IT ISN'T TRUE!" like that should be the final word on the matter. They are literally the last people in the world who would ever say it was true.note 

But yeah, convincing his followers they can't trust anybody but him it a textbook authoritarian move. Suppress the truth and make them think you're the only one they can trust. Therefore, anyone who says bad things about you is automatically lying.

Another scary part is how readily his followers are snapping it up and trying to truly drag us all into a post-fact society. And how fast the term "fake news" went from a documented and widespread phenomenon to a means for the alt-Reich to discredit literally any news they didn't like. Was it just me, or did it feel like it happened overnight?

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#166452: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:20:44 AM

Since I've been following closely the movements that led to the alt-right for years, no (((fake news))) has always been a thing among those groups, or at least denying everything as true unless it isn't from trustworthy sources, like Drudge Report, Alex Jones or Zero Hedge.

However during this election cycle it went out from the fringes to the mainstream.

edited 13th Jan '17 7:41:03 AM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#166453: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:49:54 AM

That would be why it was a new phenomenon for me, then.

Sounds like House members are about to get a classified briefing on Russian election interference.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#166454: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:52:20 AM

Will it affect anything is my question

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#166455: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:53:26 AM

It'd be grounds for impeachment, successful removal or no.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#166456: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:54:16 AM

[up][up] Almost certainly not, IMO. It would have to be one hell of a bombshell to make the House GOP suddenly find their principles.

edited 13th Jan '17 7:54:33 AM by RBluefish

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#166457: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:56:01 AM

I said grounds

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#166458: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:57:24 AM

Purely out of curiosity, just how much of a world-shattering clusterfuck would it have to be to get the GOP to find so much as a single shred of human decency that somehow still remains within their cold dead organs charitably called 'hearts'?tongue

edited 13th Jan '17 7:58:08 AM by kkhohoho

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#166459: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:58:55 AM

In order for the GOP to impeach Trump, there would have to be a vid of him having sex with a black Mexican Muslim

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#166460: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:00:02 AM

[up][up][up] I was responding to the post above yours. Indeed, it would certainly be grounds for impeachment, if even a tenth of what we suspect is true.

[up][up] Maybe a 1080p video of Trump drowning puppies in vomit? That would then be sent to all of their constituents? Although even then, he'd probably have to mutter "also I'm gonna really fuck over the WWC" before his base turned on him.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
BrainSewage from that one place Since: Jan, 2001
#166461: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:00:20 AM

[up][up][up] A straight, white, Protestant male gun-toting trillionaire would have to claim to be the next Messiah and promise them all million-dollar checks to vote the way he says.

But more likely, it's impossible.

Edit: ninja'd.

edited 13th Jan '17 8:00:43 AM by BrainSewage

How dare you disrupt the sanctity of my soliloquy?
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#166462: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:00:39 AM

Nah exploitation of minorities is pretty much the norm. He'd have to be outed as a black gay Mexican Muslim.

This room has so many [nja][nja][nja][nja][nja][nja][nja]s

edited 13th Jan '17 8:01:48 AM by blkwhtrbbt

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#166463: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:02:55 AM

The GOP is just fine with black gay muslims, who regularly donate seven figures to the party at least.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#166464: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:02:58 AM

In order for the GOP to impeach Trump, there would have to be a vid of him having sex with a black Mexican Muslim
There probably is.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166465: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:09:56 AM

Impeachment will only happen once Trump's approval ratings are low enough that the GOP Congress feels secure about the 2018 midterms. The moment they believe they don't need Trump anymore, he will be gone.

Disgusted, but not surprised
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#166466: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:10:03 AM

[up][up][up]Because, you know, giving money to your oppressors is something people apparently enjoy doing. What kind of black gay Muslim votes GOP? Especially this election cycle? Masochism isn't healthy outside of controlled environments!

[up]The fuck? Trump's approval is like, 30%. How is that not enough for them?

edited 13th Jan '17 8:11:32 AM by blkwhtrbbt

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
RedRob Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#166467: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:12:44 AM

[up] Who says it's masochism? They could just be suicidal. Or have a really bad sense of ironic humor.

edited 13th Jan '17 8:13:36 AM by RedRob

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet Unless I grew it. In that case, throw it in the trash.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166468: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:14:30 AM

[up][up] If I were them — if I were afraid of violent reprisal from Trump cultists — I'd wait until the approval ratings dip to the mid twenties or lower.

edited 13th Jan '17 8:15:18 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#166469: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:15:30 AM

[up][up] [up]I would say it needs to drop comfortably below 50% within the Repubican Party itself.

So around 20% overall approval rating and we'll get an impeachment.

edited 13th Jan '17 8:16:00 AM by Falrinn

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166470: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:17:27 AM

[up] I suspect the approval ratings will take a hit once the full effects of ACA repeal are felt. Even a hardcore Trump supporter might be swayed to at least not vote again if they suddenly can't afford their kids' overpriced Epipens or insulin.

Disgusted, but not surprised
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#166471: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:18:30 AM

Why would GOP people be afraid of Trumplings? They've got MUH GUNS and MUH GOD. Or do those not protect as well as they claim they do?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166472: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:19:15 AM

[up] There's a reason the places where these people congregate are usually designated gun-free zones.

edited 13th Jan '17 8:19:24 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#166473: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:20:12 AM

Honestly getting rid of Trump might be more of a liability to Republicans then keeping him around.

Trump has a pretty loyal base that will likely rebel, and I have no doubt that Trump would drag the Republicans down out of petty spite.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#166474: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:23:12 AM

Trump would probably need Hollande or Park Geun-Hye approval ratings to be impeached.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#166475: Jan 13th 2017 at 8:24:18 AM

[up] So in other words, when people hate him enough to be willing to set themselves on fire in public in protest.

Yeah, that is actually a thing that happened in South Korea recently.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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