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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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you se, that is the other republican value here: they value freedom is their expresion of it, no in how afect that choice, this do not extended to democrat who for them self censure when is convinent and try to other do it too.
this is where they derenged come: they only said truth thing and that things are good because they are truth.
Or let me put it this way "Im going to tell you what to do now so YOU cant tell me shit, you are oppressing me by stoping me for oppressing you"
So in my experience here in my country tell me something, is that you should prepared, since the party is going to outright defies reallity over and over.
edited 9th Jan '17 10:18:16 PM by unknowing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
it happen in the 90 and the turn of the milenial, when the republican started to prefer loyalty to the party over...well, everything else really, that is what it go this stonewalling congress and that is why they never opose Trump that much: he got the party so they obey.
they pretty much become a cult, so they cant shake that awfull loyalty to the party, even if that mean being a Trump bully target.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"What's wrong with calling it ultraconservatism?
On a related note, can someone please briefly summarize the differences between conservatism, neoconservatism, paleoconservatism, and archconservatism in US politics?
edited 9th Jan '17 11:13:51 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.If you ask me, the GOP have absolutely become a fascist party. And if that's not clear enough now, I fear it will be soon.
Seriously, there are times where I'm afraid the anti-Trump protests are going to end up sparking our own Tiananmen Square. Remember, Trump approves of the way the Chinese government handled Tiananmen Square, praising their show of "strength" - especially when contrasted with the US's "weakness."
And in less than two weeks, he'll have the authority to replicate that show of strength if it pleases him.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."I'm afraid of that possibility as well. But I just can't see the American people taking that lying down. We might get a revolution if they try to pull a Tianamen Square on Main Street.
I wonder what it would be like for the government in the end if it acts so blatantly unconstitutional. We have the authority - nay, the obligation - to shut that shit down so fast.
edited 10th Jan '17 1:07:25 AM by BearyScary
Do not obey in advance.Thing is - Tiananmen Squares happen when the government wants specifically to crush budding revolutions and establish absolute power. I have no doubt that the American people would rise up in utter horror and outrage if it happened here - but once it's happened, the taboo is broken and it can happen again. More protest will be met with more violence. More Tiananmen Squares.
It's not as if there isn't already plenty of present-day precedent for peaceful protests being met with state-sponsored violence. Look at riot cops beating and tear gassing BLM protestors, or corporate thugs siccing dogs on the water protectors at Standing Rock, and maiming them with concussion grenades, and hosing them down with water in sub-freezing temperatures (which is a potentially lethal assault).
That happened under Obama, to protests that will be small fry compared to the kind of protests we're likely to see under Trump. Imagine what the response to those could be.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."OK, enough of this. Calling everybody with a certain broad personality type (actually, your oversimplifying several types and branding them all disordered based on highly subjective criteria) irredeemably thick, too simple, etc, etc is way too much.
This so-called "conservative mind-set" that is oh-so inferior to your oh-so elevated and superior own? Is based on the same damn cognitive short cuts you're using to selectively paint a whole mass of people in simplistic colours. Emergent behaviour within groups is many things, but simple it ain't. <_<
Knock it off. I know you feel under stress and need to vent, but doing it this way is only going to cement the divide even more
And, you know what's worse? This is exactly the response a narcissist can use, so they deliberately provoke it. Aim your ire where it should belong: at those who have instigated the bipolar political split you are now in, not those who have fallen victim to it.
And, include yourselves in that bracket, while you're at it. Stop with the dislocating, self-congratulatory back-patting, too. It's not going to help anything except a brief ego boost.
edited 10th Jan '17 1:52:16 AM by Euodiachloris
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We may well be headed for an authoritarian state system, though. As it stands, I don't doubt that there would be massive outrage even from some of the more principled members of the GOP (let alone the Dems). But look at how much the slide towards fascism has already progressed in two months, before Trump's even in power. Imagine what things could look like a year into his presidency.
Basically, I'm saying we can take nothing for granted. I sincerely believe that given the right chain of events, we could see an American version of Tiananmen Square happen. Soon. That's why we can't afford to "give him a chance" (as Trumplings are so fond of bleating), because the possibility of what he might then do with that chance is horrific.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."It's sometimes hard to remember that not all conservatives in America are hardcore Trump followers.
The main reason the hypocrisy some of them demonstrate worries me is a pragmatic one. It means that no matter how bad things get, they won't blame the GOP or Trump. Which means they'll still vote for them. Which means we'll be stuck with them for eight years.
I just really hope that said hypocrisy is not widespread enough or strong enough to throw the 2018 and 2020 elections to the GOP.
I guess one way or another we're gonna find out just how true IOKIYAR really is. They are the ones running the circus now.
edited 10th Jan '17 1:57:57 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised/pol/ is trying to start a fake Democrat hashtag movement again
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Anyone got tip addresses for Vox or someone similar?
Very tangentially related, but noted pharmaceutical CEO Martin "PR agencies hate him!" Shkreli got suspended from Twitter for harassing a Teen Vogue writer after the latter refused to attend the Trump inauguration with him
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I imagine it's because they don't know where the money is actually coming from or why it's really being offered to them. The people offering said money aren't really announcing that they work for O'Keefe or that their real goal is to discredit liberals. Sort of a False Flag Operation.
edited 10th Jan '17 2:43:39 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedThat is rich coming from the guys who are obsessed with everything they don't like being paid shills, Democrat or ((())) plants and false flag operations to discredit them.
The #Not White Democrats looks just as shitty and forced like their attempt to push #Draft Our Daughters they tried to push during the election.
edited 10th Jan '17 4:40:34 AM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent leges

The funny thing about that conservative mindset? All of that goes out the window the moment they are in trouble. Their failures are always due to someone else. They don't own up to their own mistakes.
That's what really annoys me about many conservatives. The sheer blatant hypocrisy born from self-righteousness.
Reminds me a lot of the people who decry abortion but go on to have abortions of their own. Sometimes at the very same clinics where they hold protests.
edited 9th Jan '17 11:09:16 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised