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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#165351: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:10:01 AM

Marsha Blackburn, a GOP Representative, held a twitter poll a couple days ago asking who wanted the ACA to be repealed. Only about 14% wanted it gone. The rest wanted it to stay. Now, it's twitter so it isn't a scientific poll or anything, but then again, it's twitter. It's actually surprising that she apparently managed to avoid most of the insane side of the site.

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#165352: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:15:27 AM

Honestly, I think the solution is actually to normalize Trump's behavior. We have to stop treating him as an abnormality or a political "other" who is unprecedented and whose ideas are somehow "un-American." There's nothing more American than a bigoted, boorish parvenu.

And how exactly would that help?

[up][up]It's very likely that many Republicans had no intention of replacing the ACA, but I don't think that is something that's going to come out in this conversation. It really should but I'm not sure if Democrats are in a position to do that.

Either way it shows that it's much easier to be the opposition then to be in government, particularly for ideologues.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#165353: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:18:21 AM

[up] Which is problematic for the GOP since I'm fairly sure most of them are ideologues.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#165354: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:25:06 AM

@No replacement Healthcare plan: "They don't have a plan, they just hate mine!" "Convince them otherwise!" "Well, Paul Ryan won't talk to me, that's a nonstarter." "Ah, winning was easy, Barack, governing's harder."tongue

"A second flood, a simple famine, plagues of locusts everywhere, or a cataclysmic earthquake, I'd accept with some despair. But no, You sent us Congress! Good God, Sir, was that fair?"

Y'all have some very old problems to reckon with... This seems like a regression: weren't things saner only two decades ago?

edited 5th Jan '17 8:26:35 AM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#165355: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:26:28 AM

The Joint Statement for the Record to the Senate Armed Services Committee on Foreign Cyber Threats to the United States.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#165356: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:28:03 AM

[up][up]Wasn't it agreed that people would stop quoting media, no matter how relevant, here?

edited 5th Jan '17 8:28:55 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#165357: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:32:15 AM

[up]That seems more like a hypothetical scene than a quote of something.

Also, the briefing on Russian interference in the election is currently ongoing. It's a doozy. Granted I'm a semi-avid follower of Defense Twitter...

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#165358: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:34:17 AM

"No matter how relevant" wasn't part of the bargain.

The quoting of media thing is only for quotes that are only quotes. You can have quotes in your post, your post can't just be quotes.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#165359: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:34:24 AM

Dunno, I think I've seen that "Good God, you sent us Congress" line before somewhere.

Speaking of inane semi-relevant quotes, has it occurred to anyone yet that Donald Trump will be giving the next State of the Union Address (or the one next year, I'm not exactly clear on how that works in this case)

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#165360: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:36:06 AM

[up] That line is from 1776.

Trump giving the State of the Union address...I wonder if that will also be at a fourth grade level.

edited 5th Jan '17 8:36:27 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#165361: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:37:01 AM

I'm doing FANTASTIC!

Everything is fine! (TM)

America is great again, despite what your bank account and the nuclear waste hovering the lower atmosphere are telling you.

The man's not going to bother. He'll bluster his way through it and his thralls will cheer as though it were the most brilliant thing in the world.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#165362: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:37:16 AM

[up][up][up] I'm trying not to let that occur to me.

In fact, Call of Cthulhu be damned, I think finally succumbing to gibbering lunacy would be a mercy to me at this point.

edited 5th Jan '17 8:37:47 AM by TrashJack

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#165363: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:38:13 AM

Yep, David Duke thinks of Assange as a hero. The latter is already sucking up to authoritarians, no approval could fill him with shame short of that of the Clintons.

Clapper wants a US Information Agency to fight active measures from other countries. Read, American RT.

edited 5th Jan '17 8:38:43 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#165364: Jan 5th 2017 at 8:49:45 AM

[up] Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Clintons hailed Assange as some Paragon of Virtue just to troll him?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#165365: Jan 5th 2017 at 9:06:25 AM

Is that related to the old meme: "Obama endorses oxygen; Republicans all die of asphyxiation."?

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#165366: Jan 5th 2017 at 9:09:05 AM

Hmmmm that might not be so far-fetched....

Michelle Obama endorses healthy eating, Republicans over-represented by fat old men.

scribbles furiously

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#165367: Jan 5th 2017 at 9:13:59 AM

Obama is American. America does not like Russia. Therefore Russia does not like Obama. Republicans do not like Obama, therefore Republicans like Russia. Now Congress is Duma.

edited 5th Jan '17 9:15:09 AM by CrimsonZephyr

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#165368: Jan 5th 2017 at 9:18:32 AM

[up] To think, the GOP used to give Obama so much crap over the whole "Russian reset" thing.

Edit:

So apparently the GOP's not gonna change the ACA this year or next year.

Conveniently that means any changes are going to happen long after the midterm elections.

edited 5th Jan '17 9:23:25 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#165369: Jan 5th 2017 at 9:24:51 AM

[up][up]

I think there's a lot of truth to this but it reminded me of something that's a bit of a pet peeve, partly because it supports the criticisms of leftists and conservatives that Democrats are engaging in a "Red Scare".

Russia is not a communist country anymore; it's a right wing nationalist country. So, it's not surprising that they get along with/try to elect right wing nationalists in other countries.

And for this reason, the argument that "Ronald Reagan would hate the current GOP for their support of Russia" doesn't work, because besides the fact that you aren't talking about the same Russia, Reagan actually was on board with supporting right wing authoritarian governments (i.e. the Contras; Apartheid South Africa)- granted, these weren't enemies of the United States, but still...

edited 5th Jan '17 9:26:42 AM by Hodor2

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#165370: Jan 5th 2017 at 9:29:08 AM

I've never held the pretense that supporting the fascistic New Russia is inconsistent with GOP doctrine.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#165371: Jan 5th 2017 at 9:46:32 AM

Looks like HB2-style "preemption bills" are going to be a general thing.

Because the party of the small government apparently doesn't like it when the small government enacts minimum wage rises, or LGBT protections, or environmental regulations on cities.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#165372: Jan 5th 2017 at 9:48:38 AM

[up] So let's see:

1) small gov't: yeah, no.

2) family values: Trump. Nuff' said.

3) sound fiscal policy: again, no. They are already planning on so much deficit spending.

Disgusted, but not surprised
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#165373: Jan 5th 2017 at 10:35:28 AM

Rubio, Cruz and Heller introduce a bill to cut embassy security in half unless US embassy in Israel is moved to Jerusalem

BENGHAZI!!!1111!!

Oh, wait, Clinton's not So S anymore and we're in charge of government.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#165374: Jan 5th 2017 at 10:36:41 AM

Do I even need to say it? Fuck it, I will anyway: It's OK If You Are A Republican

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#165375: Jan 5th 2017 at 10:42:37 AM

[up][up] Wow, this is pretty damn brazen even for the GOP.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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