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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
If things get really bad in the USA in the next few years, I might seriously reconsider my negative opinion of the PRC. At least they openly admit to embracing authoritarianism.
Same here, though I'm petty enough to hope that a lot of rotten produce gets thrown at Trump's properties too. Granted, that means more work for the over-worked and underpaid staff.
edited 5th Jan '17 12:15:51 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedEh, while they can legally arm the police with military grade tools, I think that using the actual army would meet resistance. And require a whole lot of other stuff to go pear shaped before anyone in government was ok with the idea. At this point, using the police, and possibly the National Guard, would seem like enough, if highly alarming.
Like, Trump can't just jump to the extreme end of the badness; he has to at least be able to build up to it first, because I seriously don't think anyone in the government would be happy about him ordering the military to police work.
Everyone here is thinking that the doomsday scenarios will happen immediately; I say the problem with doomsday scenarios is that they're actually built up to and people just slowly get used to the rising level of badness until everything goes to shit. The goal, obviously, is to prevent getting to the doomsday scenario.
edited 5th Jan '17 12:45:03 AM by AceofSpades
As tempting as watching them get Hoist by Their Own Petard is, it's not productive, and not ethical. Our energies should be focused, whenever possible, on the people farther up the chain using them as pawns. Getting "Back at them" does nothing but waste time we could have been organizing against the true threat.
"Coffee! Coffeecoffeecoffee! Coffee! Not as strong as Meth-amphetamine, but it lets you keep your teeth!"Yeah, Nick, it's kinda not cool to look forward to the deaths of people that could be prevented, regardless of what you think of their voting habits. Kind of reminds me of the time someone suggested just nuking Texas because it's a Republican stronghold. This kind of thinking is the absolute worst kind of "us vs them" kind of thinking, because you are literally just not thinking of them as worthy of life the same way you are. And are also, effectively, punishing the people who couldn't vote in those areas. Like these people's children.
@Hallow Hawk: I wouldn't say all of them would revolt, but at least some of them would. There's a whole thing about disobeying illegal orders, and I'm pretty sure that ordering them to perform action in the US in a police function would cross that line. Unless the Congress passes a law making it legal, which would surely get a whole bunch of protest.
By the way, I think everybody is overreacting to the end of net neutrality. Realistically, IS Ps aren't going to censor the internet for political reasons, they'll just charge you more money and block competitor's services. Which is a problem, but not the one that people were talking about.
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That seems worrying enough on its own. I think also that it would lead to trouble regarding municipalities that are trying to or already are offering internet as a local utility instead of relying on companies to build all the infrastructure for that. I may be wrong on this, but companies sure don't like it when people try to get internet from sources that aren't them.
There's a reason I keep comparing the removal of net neutrality to gentrification. I know it's not exactly the same thing, but still.
Concerning Trump voters who screwed themselves and their loved ones over...I just hope they learn from the experience and either abstain or vote Democrat in the next rounds of elections. Admittedly that second one is probably a bridge too far for many of them thanks to the partisanship in this country.
edited 5th Jan '17 1:08:48 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised....meh, I see no reason to really care.
Their voting betrays the fact - the inescapable fact - that these are human beings who chose obliteration. With the warped religious creed present, wouldn't it be credible to think they'd like what is being done to them as long as its Trump doing it?
edited 5th Jan '17 2:42:06 AM by NickTheSwing
So it looks like at least fifty members of the Electoral College may have been illegitimate
- either by not being resident in the area that they were supposed to represent, or by being in state elected positions that should've barred them from serving due to the positions themselves prohibiting dual officeholders.
How many of those supposedly illegitimate electors are Republican ones?
Also, would the loss of net neutrality have any tangible effect for Internet users outside the USA?
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Depends if sites decide to pass the cost on. American IS Ps can't really throttle international traffic.
"Yup. That tasted purple.""Clinton won the popular vote by three million, despite a decades-long smear campaign, Russian meddling and propaganda, GOP voter suppression, media bias, and societal misogyny. Clinton was not the problem."
Clinton won three million extra coastlanders, worthless political untermenschen in the presidental equation.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

I just hope the protests continue, and remain nonviolent, even in the face of Trump's thugs. Peaceful, unyielding resistance is what might get us through this.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."