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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#164901: Dec 31st 2016 at 3:08:22 PM

I'm sorry, what principles?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#164902: Dec 31st 2016 at 3:08:43 PM
Thumped: This post was thumped by moderation to preserve the dignity of the author.
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#164903: Dec 31st 2016 at 3:15:01 PM

[up][up][up]Obama wasn't exceptional in his use of Executive Orders, this is correct. But he did need to use them to advance his social agenda in particular, which any President with a reactionary Congress would have to do.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#164906: Dec 31st 2016 at 4:57:44 PM

Interesting that China's strict gun control laws actually add a sort of "forbidden fruit" allure for Chinese-American immigrants who suddenly have access to them - and also interesting that Asian-Americans have the lowest rate of gun ownership. Both of those things make sense, but I had never really thought about either of them.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#164907: Dec 31st 2016 at 4:58:02 PM

tl;dr Chinese immigrant buys a gun.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#164908: Dec 31st 2016 at 8:09:47 PM

I wonder whether the "traditional" Chinese view of investments is a factor - My desire to own a select-fire HK416A5 is tied in to the issue that it is very unlikely I will ever be able to own a home in my current region of residence without incurring significant amounts of debt.

Today in poorly reasoned talking points we've seen a lot here lately: GOP Congressman: Russian Hackers ‘Merely Did What The Media Should’ve Done’

If it were up to Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.), the media would start taking its cues from Russian hackers.

The Republican congressman appeared on MSNBC with Hallie Jackson on Thursday to deny that Russia hacked into U.S. government servers in an attempt to tip the election for Donald Trump, despite the fact that both the FBI and CIA agree it happened.

“There’s no suggestion that Russia hacked into our voting systems or anything like that,” Franks said Thursday. “If Russia succeeded in giving the American people information that was accurate, then they merely did what the media should’ve done.”

Franks’ comments echo similar sentiments voiced by President-elect Trump, who has called the intelligence community’s reports “ridiculous.”

“I don’t believe they interfered. That became a laughing point, not a talking point, a laughing point. Any time I do something, they say ‘oh, Russia interfered,’” he told Time magazine earlier this month. “It could be Russia. And it could be China. And it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey.”

Trump said Wednesday that it was “time to move on” from the Russian hacking investigation altogether.

But President Barack Obama is taking the mounting evidence brought against Russia seriously. He sanctioned Russian officials Thursday over the election meddling, which involved hacking into and leaking emails from Democratic operatives.

“All Americans should be alarmed by Russia’s actions,” the president said in a statement.

That is, unless you’re a member of the media ― in which case you should start taking notes, according to Franks.

Happy New Year, guys, members of your government are now openly recommending media figures commit cyber crimes.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#164910: Dec 31st 2016 at 9:14:50 PM

Happy New Year guys. Hears hoping we see next year....

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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#164911: Dec 31st 2016 at 9:40:31 PM

I recall something posted a while back in the Gun Thread: a Chinese immigrant bought a gun, and asked if he could practice (i.e, target shoot) with it at home.

He lived in an apartment.

The gun dealer explained to him that it would be a very bad idea.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#164912: Dec 31st 2016 at 10:56:13 PM

[up][up][up] ... Does he not realize that governments and their intelligence agencies tend to have a lot more resources to perform cyberwarfare than even the largest news media outlet today could ever hope to have?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#164913: Dec 31st 2016 at 10:59:00 PM

[up]I think he means, "the media should dish out dirt on our enemies, but remain silent about us."

edited 31st Dec '16 10:59:35 PM by Eschaton

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#164914: Dec 31st 2016 at 11:03:13 PM

Except that the kind of dirt he's asking for isn't likely to be something a news outlet could acquire without a whistleblower coming to them... at which point it's much less about the outlet's ability and much more about the whistleblower's courage.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#164915: Dec 31st 2016 at 11:03:34 PM

If it was the RNC that that was getting hacked by the Russians to aid the Dems, they'd be squealing like little piggies about it.

Do not obey in advance.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#164916: Dec 31st 2016 at 11:04:43 PM

Ugh, American conservatives are so damn childish, it's embarrassing to share the same nationality.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#164917: Dec 31st 2016 at 11:25:02 PM

I'd still rather deal with Trump supporters than Bernieor Buster types.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#164918: Dec 31st 2016 at 11:27:43 PM

[up] They're both awful but in different (though not too different) ways.

Anyone who is still upset about the Trump win but didn't vote for HRC can go fuck themselves, IMHO. Actually, they did. Too bad they also helped fuck over the rest of us too.

edited 31st Dec '16 11:28:57 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#164919: Jan 1st 2017 at 12:58:09 AM

"If it was the RNC that that was getting hacked by the Russians to aid the Dems, they'd be squealing like little piggies about it. "

but you see, the RNC are entitled to squeal and whinne because is the republican party, the demn have to acept it.

And Im not kidding here, the RNC have pretty much enter into this mentality: im good therefore I win which provee that Im good, therefore everything I can do is correct if I win, all while Dems should just acept defeat and be quiet.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#164920: Jan 1st 2017 at 1:56:56 AM

[up]x3 Based on this reddit post Krieger 22 posted, they may just be the same people.

[up]Sigh... Sounds extremely familiar, doesn't it?

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#164921: Jan 1st 2017 at 6:58:49 AM

[up][up]That's a classic Social Darwinist rationalization. It's also circular logic. But then, I wouldn't expect anything else from a Republican these days...

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#164922: Jan 1st 2017 at 7:25:11 AM

[up]Actual social Darwinists are graceful losers. That is of course a rare thing in real life.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#164923: Jan 1st 2017 at 7:47:12 AM

Went to a New Year's party last night. Once it turned 2017, the discussion briefly turned to politics. Thankfully we all agreed that Trump is a horrible person.

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#164924: Jan 1st 2017 at 7:55:54 AM

When the prez-elect takes the oath of office, do they swear on a bible or on the Constitution? Either way, I'm halfway expecting it to burst into flames when Trump puts his hand on it and says, "I solemnly swear..."

edited 1st Jan '17 7:57:03 AM by pwiegle

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#164925: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:00:56 AM

[up]

At this point I'm half expecting the Lincoln Memorial statue or Mount Rushmore's faces to start shedding tears of blood.

Edit:

So Trump apparently wrote his own victory speech. Not sure if this was mentioned already in this thread. Anywhoo, this immediately came to mind:

edited 1st Jan '17 8:03:25 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised

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