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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#159476: Nov 29th 2016 at 10:09:19 PM

For us Batfans out there - this video was released in 2009, yet the final twist by Joker lecturing the class about who could be Batman towards the end of it is made even funnier by recent events.

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#159477: Nov 29th 2016 at 10:09:19 PM

For us Batfans out there - this video was released in 2009, yet the final twist by Joker lecturing the class about who could be Batman towards the end of it is made even funnier by recent events.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#159478: Nov 29th 2016 at 10:14:26 PM

@Silasw: Yeah, I'm aware that communism was the go-to Casus Belli until after the collapse of the Soviet Union, that was a bit of laziness on my part. That being said, in my reckoning, the number of harmful or failed interventions greatly exceeds the success story. I don't count Germany and Japan into this, since the sort of utter defeat inflicted upon them in World War II that allowed for a radical restructuring of their society under American directive is neither humane nor politically feasible. Plus the post-war economic incentive, namely the need to offload American industrial output no longer exists.

edited 29th Nov '16 10:18:14 PM by CaptainCapsase

Madrugada MOD Since: Jan, 2001
#159479: Nov 29th 2016 at 10:20:59 PM

US POLITICS, people. Not general military history, not Japan, not France, not general political theory. Not the other posters. US POLITICS.

GOT IT?

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#159481: Nov 29th 2016 at 11:03:59 PM

... Wow, second thread I frequently visit that I open up to find a series of thumps in. Anyway...

Texas elector quits, says pledge binding and Trump 'not biblically qualified'.

Basically, the guy already pledged to the Texas GOP that he'll cast his vote in accordance with the Texan general public's will, but does not consider Trump qualified to be POTUS, so he Took a Third Option and resigned his post.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#159482: Nov 29th 2016 at 11:06:40 PM

Fair enough, if anyone does want to talk about interventionism in relevant threads we do have them by the way.

[up] So what happens now? Is no vote cast or does someone replace the guy?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#159483: Nov 29th 2016 at 11:08:50 PM

[up] I can only assume the latter, not that it would really matter.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#159484: Nov 29th 2016 at 11:13:15 PM

The article mentions the Texas GOP chairman said that "a replacement for Sisneros will be selected by the remaining electors when they meet Dec. 19." Wether he means just the Texan electors or all of the electors is unknown to me.

edited 29th Nov '16 11:13:33 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#159485: Nov 29th 2016 at 11:40:02 PM

So I saw this graphic on The Nib.

https://thenib.com/give-trump-a-chance

It's going to be a long four years.

Disgusted, but not surprised
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159486: Nov 29th 2016 at 11:44:01 PM

One way or another it won't last long.

He'll be impeached in a year's time for sure. This man is incompetent and self-destructive and goddamn lucky. Those three attributes are always going to be a tension with him, and he's going to do more crazy and outrageous things and keep pushing his luck. In that situation two things happen, either he'll overreach and collapse, or he sparks a thermonuclear war and kill us all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqiblXFlZuk

edited 29th Nov '16 11:44:59 PM by JulianLapostat

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#159487: Nov 29th 2016 at 11:53:18 PM

They'll probably just elect a guy who will vote for Trump in the end, so it's not going to make much difference unless he tried to convince his fellows to change their votes beforehand.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#159488: Nov 29th 2016 at 11:58:35 PM

Did someone suggest captioning the meeting between Trump and Romney?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#159489: Nov 30th 2016 at 12:10:18 AM

@Julian: Or he'll embezzle billions of dollars, stack the court with cronies, get reelected in a very suspect landslide, then proudly "step aside" in eight years for President-Elect Jared Kushner, and end up living to 87 despite his poor health.

Because only the good die young.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#159490: Nov 30th 2016 at 12:16:19 AM

Romney praised Trump after their dinner together. The politicking never stops, and it looks like Romney, if he intends to do any good at all, will be laying low for it.

It's been fun.
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159491: Nov 30th 2016 at 12:17:09 AM

You know, Jared Kushner is the only guy in the Trump retinue that I find interesting. Not that I like the guy, but there's something about him that strikes me as off. I mean the other people in that Rogues Gallery make sense. Trump, his airhead daughter who asked her servants to use their spare cash to buy lemonade from her, Rasputin Steve Bannon, Theocrat Mike Pence. Within that, Kushner is just The Team Normal.

Then you read about his past. His family were donors to the Democrat Party, then his father got taken down by Chris Christie. He got embarrased when it was revealed he paid his way into Harvard. And now he's helping to put a fascist in power. He's the Sidney Falco to J. J. Hunsecker.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#159492: Nov 30th 2016 at 12:17:23 AM

Hopefully Trump was flattered enough to pick Romney over Giuliani.

edited 30th Nov '16 12:18:50 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#159493: Nov 30th 2016 at 12:20:06 AM

That's the thing - if Romney wants to get in, this is how he'll have to do it. Even if massaging Trump's ego sounds as disgusting, and is probably as psychically traumatic, as massaging Trump's anything else.

It's been fun.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#159494: Nov 30th 2016 at 12:23:22 AM

[up]

Romney after that dinner:

Disgusted, but not surprised
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#159495: Nov 30th 2016 at 12:24:36 AM

It's not gonna happen though.

Trump already got what he wanted. Just look at his fucking face.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#159496: Nov 30th 2016 at 12:26:06 AM

@Krieger 22: Perfect tweet is perfect. [lol]

Do not obey in advance.
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#159497: Nov 30th 2016 at 12:26:49 AM

Trump is personally sadistic and he enjoys Romney and other squirming and grovelling.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#159499: Nov 30th 2016 at 1:03:26 AM

What Romney says once (if?) he becomes Secretary will determine my final verdict on him.

Aqueos Nova here from Los Angeles Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
#159500: Nov 30th 2016 at 1:09:11 AM

To be honest, Romney is probably the best case scenario. I don't think I'll particularly like him, but he managed a presidential campaign with only one serious gaffe, and until recently was critical of Trump.

While going down with sword in hand fighting against what he said was essentially corruption of his party might be more principled, at the least he'd be a somewhat moderating influence.

That's not to say that it'll be sunshine and rainbows, but I doubt he'll for instance, dial 1-800-KREMLIN. And that alone would be something to be grateful for.

Also Guliani just strikes me as out of his depth, and is a bit of a loose cannon with his mouth. Plus, apparently there are accusations of business entanglements with Qatar just to add to that mess.

edited 30th Nov '16 1:14:05 AM by Aqueos

Bet you didn't see that coming

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