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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#158901: Nov 27th 2016 at 5:27:00 PM

Trump is getting butthurt and trying to claim his opponent rigged the election because she has a huge lead in a state that is strongly Democratic and has very convenient voter registration and voting options

The winner of the election is trying to delegitimize votes that were against him — votes that won't actually sway the results.

...If the Democrats really were capable of pulling what he is claiming happened, they would have done it in the swing states. Y'know, so that HRC would have won.

... ... ... ...This. Is. Not. Normal.

@Potatoes Rock

And of course the people who worship him are mostly people he wouldn't want anywhere near him if he could help it.

edited 27th Nov '16 5:30:09 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
MonsieurThenardier Searching from Murika Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Searching
#158902: Nov 27th 2016 at 5:31:48 PM

Did this already get posted? It's kind of old but I didn't see it here. Guardian is a rag, but the quotes seem legit:

"Bob Walker, a senior Trump campaign adviser, said there was no need for Nasa to do what he has previously described as “politically correct environmental monitoring”.

“My guess is that it would be difficult to stop all ongoing Nasa programs but future programs should definitely be placed with other agencies. I believe that climate research is necessary but it has been heavily politicized, which has undermined a lot of the work that researchers have been doing. Mr Trump’s decisions will be based upon solid science, not politicized science.”

Trump has previously said that climate change is a “hoax” perpetrated by the Chinese, although on Tuesday he said there is “some connectivity” between human actions and the climate

Walker, however, claimed that doubt over the role of human activity in climate change “is a view shared by half the climatologists in the world. We need good science to tell us what the reality is and science could do that if politicians didn’t interfere with it.”

"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#158903: Nov 27th 2016 at 6:25:36 PM

Is there a day that passes where Trump won't make me angry?

I swear I'm going to in a perpetual Hulk Mode every day for 4 years.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#158904: Nov 27th 2016 at 6:26:24 PM

The Democratic Coalition Against Trump announced the complaint in a statement, “The Democratic Coalition Against Trump filed an Election Fraud complaint with the Wisconsin Elections Commission on Saturday afternoon regarding four separate precincts located within Outagamie County, WI. According to local reports, there were four precincts in Hortonville, Cicero, Bear Creek, and Grand Chute, where it was reported that more people had voted in the presidential race, than had voted overall. The discrepancy, which was attributed by local officials to human error, added over 1,000 votes to Donald Trump which were then taken away when the official election results were posted. The Democratic Coalition Against Trump filed the Election Fraud complaint to urge the Wisconsin Elections Commission to look into these precincts to investigate this vote padding as intentional fraud, as opposed to a clerical error.”

It appears that there may have been some classic examples of vote padding happening in Wisconsin. When a reliably blue state in recent presidential elections suddenly shifts to red by the smallest of margins, it should raise some concerns. The state has removed nearly 5,000 votes from Trump’s lead over due to human error.

Trump just lost 5,000 votes from Wisconsin so far.

Here.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#158905: Nov 27th 2016 at 6:27:37 PM

@Thenardier: Yeah, I think it was posted several pages back. It was agreed to be bullshit as a move. And it's clearly politically motivated.

[up]Not that I think a recount will change anything, but this is giving me a bit of schaudenfreude.

edited 27th Nov '16 6:28:32 PM by AceofSpades

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#158906: Nov 27th 2016 at 6:29:57 PM

So are we still supposed to "give him a chance"?

That ship has sailed.

As someone who voted for HRC while registered in California — the state primarily responsible for HRC's YUUUGE "Bigly" popular vote lead — I'd like to say two things to him: 1) "I am a very much alive U.S. Citizen who is registered to vote in California and did so properly", and 2) "Fuck you".

edited 27th Nov '16 6:34:52 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#158907: Nov 27th 2016 at 6:48:20 PM

My motto in life is this song by The Rolling Stones:

I had no expectations when Obama came in...Basic requirement was "Don't be Bush"...Obama surprised me by also "not being B. Clinton, not being Reagan, not being Carter" and a few others. With Trump, my attitude is more or less, "From this moment on, none of us is safe".

About the only thing that gives me hope is Putin...because if he is Trump's blackmailer/handler, at least the foreign policy won't be too insane. America is definitely going to become a kleptocracy, that much is certain. The process has already begun.

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#158908: Nov 27th 2016 at 6:48:29 PM

USA, please do what South Korea is doing right now.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#158909: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:04:08 PM

Elaborating on that since most of us are unaware of what's going on in South Korea would make that comment a lot more substantial and meaningful in the discussion.

BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#158910: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:06:30 PM

What I'd heard was that Obama is actually being really nice to Trump as Trump has to take lots of advice from Obama on how to actually govern.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#158911: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:06:46 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#158912: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:09:04 PM

If this investigation really does turn up evidence of fraud or hacking... well, no, I don't think there's any point hoping. It'll happen or it won't, and hoping just gets you disappointment.

It's been fun.
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#158913: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:20:35 PM

Elaborating on that since most of us are unaware of what's going on in South Korea would make that comment a lot more substantial and meaningful in the discussion.
Basically the President of South Korea, Park Geun-hye, admitted she was essentially taking orders and running the government at the beck and call of her best friend, a female billionaire named Choi Soon-sil. Choi was basically telling Park what to eat, thing, wear, say, etc. Choi Soon-sil is also part of a cult called The Eight Fairies, that's apparently part cult/part secret society of billionaires in South Korea who were controlling Park and via her, the right-wing Grand National Party that currently is in control of South Korea.

Since then, protests have exploded to roughly 4% of the South Korean population all in Seoul (2 Million or so at last count, from what I remember.). Park's approval rating is at 4%. Her party and the opposition are following through on Impeachment hearings next month for essentially corruption.

Also, of what I heard, adding onto this, it was discovered in the last week that her administration was buying prescription drugs in bulk, including Viagra, Lidocaine, Propofol and various narcotics, and keeping them in their offices. I'll let you guys take your brains from there.

edited 27th Nov '16 7:21:23 PM by PotatoesRock

BrainSewage from that one place Since: Jan, 2001
#158914: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:23:32 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up] I can't see any American politician ever being impeached for corruption, for the simple reason that most of them are corrupt, and to call attention to a corrupt President or Congressperson would be to call attention to oneself as well.

edited 27th Nov '16 7:24:37 PM by BrainSewage

How dare you disrupt the sanctity of my soliloquy?
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#158915: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:29:27 PM

[up][up] She's also a case of Like Father Like Daughter. Her father Park Chunghee, South Korea's former military dictator, had a similar relationship with Choi's father, the previous leader of the cult. Choi and Geun-hye were thick as thieves growing up.

edited 27th Nov '16 7:32:49 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#158916: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:30:36 PM

[up][up]That's the kind of unwarranted cynicism that got us into this mess.

But in any case, most American politicians don't encourage foreign diplomat to stay at hotels said politicians own. In fact only one does that.

edited 27th Nov '16 7:30:53 PM by Gilphon

JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#158917: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:31:51 PM

I wonder who is going to be Trump's supplier...because its clear from all that sniffing that the guy likes the white stuff.

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#158918: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:31:53 PM

I'm kind of afraid that if these recounts and investigations don't turn up anything, it's essentially going to end up being like Obama's birth certificate, but on the other side. I want to know that this actually has credibility to it, even if I do hope that it could potentially turn things around. I do believe that a popular vote margin this wide warrants looking into.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#158919: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:33:29 PM

The "all politicians are corrupt meme" is indeed what got us here, and "our elections are corrupt!" talk from Jill Stein is also what got us here, so I think it's kind of weird for liberals to suddenly be talking about rigged elections.

There's no evidence of that. Now, if an audit finds something, then it's good we had one, but there's virtually no chance of that.

FieldMarshalFry Field Marshal of Cracked from World Internet War 1 Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Field Marshal of Cracked
#158920: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:37:36 PM

Trump does not need a supplier, the man produces his insanity all on his own, and hey, if Hillary having the flu means she's about to keel over and die, what does Trump having an itchy nose mean? Web MD says cancer

[up]two names disprove that: Sanders and Corbyn

edited 27th Nov '16 7:38:03 PM by FieldMarshalFry

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#158921: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:37:39 PM

[up][up][up]I don't believe the recount will change anything, but I do think it's important symbolically that a popular vote/electorial college split be followed by grumblings about challenging the result.

And I think that while some people probably believe there was hacking, I think the majority of people supporting the recount are just taking hope where they can find it- 'if there's any chance at preventing a Presidency, it's worth trying, even if it is a longshot' is the general mindset, I believe.

edited 27th Nov '16 7:38:16 PM by Gilphon

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#158922: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:38:09 PM

I both love, and am not surprised at all that a lot of Trump's votes are computer errors and fraudulent. Now if only we can just get rid of the electoral college.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#158923: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:38:33 PM

I'm leaning towards a Hanlon's Razor explanation for any vote irregularities uncovered by the recount.

I doubt very much that this recount will change the results of the election. That said, since the money was already raised, it might as well be done. At the very least, it might help reassure people that the election was not hacked by Russians.

Disgusted, but not surprised
JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
#158924: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:39:05 PM

Obama did in fact run a historically clean administration.

A lot of political corruption in America is more in the realm of lobbying and legal enrichment (those paid speeches they made a big deal out of). And even then you have stuff like Dodd-Frank and the Consumer Rights Bureau.

Stuff like the graft in South Korea, and what Trump is promising to bring hasn't really been seen very often.

FieldMarshalFry Field Marshal of Cracked from World Internet War 1 Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Field Marshal of Cracked
#158925: Nov 27th 2016 at 7:39:46 PM

Obama let the Republicans come up and attempt to "prove" all the crazy shit they wanted about him... now it's the Democrats turn and Republicans are already running to their "safe spaces"

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